"Tactics of the Ukrainian war" Topic

Legion 4, this is blatant stupidity… Haven't you all seen racists who hate white people? How is such a racist any better than one who hates black people?
It's easier for me, since I have communist beliefs))) I understand the biblical principles: "There is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, barbarian, Scythian, slave nor free, but Christ is all and in all"…
Colossians 3:11

Twelve rules of the Builder of Communism:
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Race, nationality, and everything else—it doesn't matter. We are all equal…

Don't need to tell any of us all of that. I am not agreeing with much of anything that the woke progressive left wing liberal Kool Aid drinkers, useful dupes, some intellectual academics, etc.

In the USA the gap between Left and Right then the Independent is vast. Anyone with common sense, a modicum of intelligence, a little logic, etc. sees those who are the real racists, Nazis, etc. …

Again, no need to tell me it's blatantly stupid … most of us know that already …

And have to suffer thru these morons we see daily in the media, etc. And most of the media is included in that group.

What the Iran Conflict Means for Russia

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Armand

Tango—you've been growing in my eyes lately. This is a good article and a solid analysis. Russia truly has an ambivalent attitude toward this war.

Let's return to the issue of assessing the actual losses of both sides in Ukraine. Brilliant analysis on this topic from "History Legends":

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So – 1:1…

The Hungarians seized a large shipment of cash and gold being transported from Europe to Ukraine. Hungary's energy blockade has its price.

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Well… Orban openly said he is a Putin friend… since day one… he has to quit the EU and live happy…

Seems that nobody now give a s… for this War… all people here are pending only of the The daily chronicle of what our friend Trump decides or does… perhaps it's time for both sides to sit down and talk seriously about an armistice…

Armand

It's impossible, Tango… Russia needs security guarantees. Who can provide them? Zelensky? It's not even funny.

Orbán is concerned about the well-being of his people. What else is a country's leader supposed to do?

Russia has security guarantees, its nuclear arsenal is supposed to be the biggest of the world.
Orban is concerned about his own power and wealth.

Ukraines want to raise their kids and have some fun at the weekend. Same for Russians, Iranians und Americans.

If Ukraines would have joined the EU, people of the Donbass would have been protected by EU laws. Now a lot of mothers are grieving for their sons

If Ukraine were to join NATO, NATO missiles and aircraft would be stationed 400 km from Moscow. A perfect position for a "disarming" preemptive strike…
Let's recall the Cuban Missile Crisis – didn't the US have nuclear weapons?

Orban cares no more about power and wealth than the European bureaucrats and other European elites… What about the von der Leyen scandal and the Covid vaccine, for example? They simply hushed it up… Someone who practices corruption has no right to speak about it…

Ukrainians raised their children and enjoyed themselves on weekends without any problems until they overthrew the country's legitimate president with the open support of the West in 2014…

Would they have been protected by EU laws in the same way as Russian residents of the Baltic states? Do you know what "non-citizens" are? Thanks, but no need…

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Whataboutism at its finest…

If Ukraine overthrows its government it is not the business of Russia to declare that Ukraine should not exist.

Disarming preemptive strikes don´t need a distance under 400 km, if Russia fears an invasion or total nuclear destruction despite its nuclear capabilities then it should consult a psychologist instead of attacking non-nuclear neighbours.

I was talking about Ukraine joining the EU btw. Do you still don´t know the difference? Even Putin is okay with Ukraine joining the EU.

In 2002, he even acknowledged Ukraines right to join NATO as Ukraine is a sovereign state.

Distance between Ukraine (under Russian control) and Varsovie is also 350 km… this is not an excuse to invade another sovereign country… Ukraine has not atomic weapons, they ceded to Russia in a broken agreement…

Armand

Putin has been trying to reach an agreement with Ukraine since 2014 – it took three Minsk agreements to resolve the conflict… Unfortunately, all to no avail.

An anti-Russian Ukraine should not exist… We don't need that.

400 km is a limited flight time for reaction – five minutes? What could possibly take off for a retaliatory strike after that?
Yes, the Russians are paranoid. The same as the rest of the West regarding Russia. Why not?

The Ukrainian Constitution enshrines the intention to seek NATO membership. What does the EU have to do with it?

Ukraine received its sovereignty from Russia, and the agreement recognizing it stipulated that no threat to Russia should emanate from its territory. Ukraine's sovereignty was recognized only under these conditions. If these conditions are not met, the recognition is invalid.

In 2002, NATO had not yet annexed the countries of the former USSR (our buffer between Russia and NATO). By doing so, you have brought the threat directly to our borders.

Tango01, NATO has nuclear weapons. And no one in Russia doubts that they will be immediately deployed on Ukrainian territory as soon as it joins NATO. And even if they aren't, they can be delivered there at any time if necessary.
There is no Poland, Romania, Finland, or any other country from a military perspective. There is NATO… A gigantic, aggressive military bloc created specifically for war against Russia.

@Cuprum:
as you stated, Russia no longer acknowledges Ukraines sovereignity. Therefore Russia is no longer accepting international law, just like another big nation, there seems to be a trend. So Russia should be treated as a paranoid gangster.
I don´t have to explain that NATO does not annex, nor do I have to explain why sovereign nations can enter NATO if they consider Russia or other countries as threats. You are repeating russian propaganda, I don´t think you actually believe what you are saying.
Over and out.

It's ridiculous… NATO took Kosovo from Serbia in order to establish the largest NATO military base in Europe there. They took it without applying any international law—at their own whim.
What right do you have to blame anyone after that?

You can label any reasonable and rational thought "propaganda"—but what does that even matter anymore?
The world is broken; there are no rules anymore. And even negotiations now are merely preparation for a surprise strike. Incidentally, it was the Europeans who used the Minsk talks with Russia as an opportunity to prepare Ukraine for war. Your politicians have publicly announced this. They, too, are apparently Moscow propagandists.

Do you now understand why Russia refuses to talk to Europeans? It's pointless. Your treaties and guarantees aren't worth the paper they're written on…

yeah, Kosovo is member of the NATO, right…please read UN resolution 1244 again, you might have missed something…the Minsk talk happened after Russia invaded the crimea. Of course Ukraine was prepared for the coming war, just like Munich 1938 was done to prepare the RAF for the coming war.

You are right, the discussions here doesn´t matter, so I rather continue painting my miniatures.
Have a good day, Sir.

I reread the resolution and found nothing about allowing Kosovo to secede from Serbia unilaterally, nor about establishing a NATO base there… Where did you read that? I see only an almost exact analogy with the situation in Crimea.

An excellent solution—negotiations without a real desire to reach an agreement… That's exactly what always leads to major wars.

I wish you success in painting figures.

Generally dogtail +1

Tango +1