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| Cacadoress | 18 Oct 2025 9:37 a.m. PST |
So, yesterday I collected the men to paint, I've got a defensive tower and I'm thinking of making some new terrain: a nice, sandy beach, maybe with a landing stage I can use for a daring night skirmish raid… but I need a boat. Anyone know where to source one for 25 mil. scale, ie 1/72 or thereabouts? I keep looking in toy shops but no result. Any small boat would do. Perhaps a pinnacle with 8 oars or a jolly-boat with 4-6. Since it's just a waterline model I need and anything I can find online is either crazily expensive or at a vastly incorrect scale, I was thinking of making one myself, though I'm not certain how. Perhaps I could use fi-mo, plaster and lolly-sticks! Or get my daughter to make a clay one in her pottery class. Though I have to say, my pride in her abilities outweighs my confidence. |
| Giles the Zog | 19 Oct 2025 4:23 a.m. PST |
Perrys do a landing party and boat. Brigade Games (US) do a load of boats and canoes If you get stuck, the aquarium section of your pet store often have boat models that are often surprisingly useful. |
| Griefbringer | 19 Oct 2025 5:20 a.m. PST |
Perry landing party and boat you can find here (codes BH 117-124): link I once scratch-built a rather simplistic water-line boat model from thick cardboard. First cutting the boat shaped bottom part, and then bending the side-sections to match it. I think I glued it together with PVA glue, pinning the parts with metal pins while letting the glue dry overnight. Then glueing on thinner cardboard strips for planking. Quite simplistic but looks like a boat from distance. |
 The Virtual Armchair General  | 19 Oct 2025 12:29 p.m. PST |
While ostensibly 15mm, this Longboat is 4.5" long and might … float your boat for less money. link A 28mm version of this is available, but not up on site, yet. If interested, E-mail TVAG@att.net for some sample illos, etc. Cheers! TVAG |
| Cacadoress | 19 Oct 2025 1:06 p.m. PST |
I'll check out Perry's. Giles the Zog
"If you get stuck, the aquarium section of your pet store often have boat models" Our pet-shop has a parcel-delivery service I used to collect the figures. I should have had a look. theminiaturespage.com
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"I once scratch-built a rather simplistic water-line model from thick cardboard."
Now that's a top idea. Sharper edges than clay. I make buildings with card, so why not a boat? Kebab skewers for oars and a mast. And PVA makes even thin card, stiff. I can stick on little paper hinges to hold the parts. Looking at these plans, I reckon a skiff is a little easier: theminiaturespage.com
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| Cacadoress | 19 Oct 2025 2:15 p.m. PST |
The Virtual Armchair General
"While ostensibly 15mm, this Longboat is 4.5" long and might … float your boat for less money. link" Yep, thanks. I think I was getting beyond myself with all those plans. A frigate's raiding boat for 28 mil. could be anything from a 3-inch jolly-boat carrying ten men, to a 6-inch longboat carrying thirty. Since you're doing 3-D printing, have you thought of making kits? |
| Griefbringer | 20 Oct 2025 2:47 a.m. PST |
Before embarking on the building project, have you decided what is the exact role of that boat: is it just going to sit close to the waterline as an empty decoration, or are you going to actually move it around and have models standing within it? In other words, is it going to be used for a diorama or gaming? If it is going to be just decoration, and models are not normally going to go inside, you can go quite heavy with detailing all of the oars, benches and masts. Maybe even throwing an anchor and some rope bundles inside. If you are going to use it as a gaming piece, you need to be able to place standing models on their bases inside. And in this, the benches and oars will just get in the way. If you construct your model of thin wood (which should be as easy to work as card, but look better) you could make your benches loose, so that they can be removed to make space for the figures. Oars are of course separate in the real world, though having loose oars around in the model may be a bit fiddly. And if it is a landing boat, rowing in from a larger ship off-table, then a sail would just get in the way. Finally, what colour are you going to paint in the end? If the boat is light in colour, detailing will stand out, but if you are going to paint it dark then the detailing inside will not be very visible on the table. Here in Finland, wooden boats are traditionally coated with tar, giving them an extremely dark brown (almost black) colour. Of course, if you want to get really fancy, you could make a boat with separate seated rowers and passengers. When the boat hits the beach, remove the separate passengers and replace them with models standing at the waterline. But I would recommend starting with something really simple that can be used for gaming quickly. You can later on replace it with a more complex model if you need. Personally, I am at the moment prefectly happy with my extremely simple cardboard model that looks remotely like a boat and can very easily fit 10-11 models inside. |
| Griefbringer | 20 Oct 2025 2:55 a.m. PST |
On the other hand, if you ever pass by Kokkola, there is an opportunity to see a genuine mid-19th century Royal Navy landing boat on display: link It was captured by the locals back in the day when a Royal Navy landing operation went sour. Supposedly the original owners would not mind getting it back, but the locals are quite proud about having it on display, as a reminder for outsiders not to mess with Kokkola! |
| Ed von HesseFedora | 20 Oct 2025 5:24 a.m. PST |
Have you looked at Firelock Games? These might work link |
| Cacadoress | 20 Oct 2025 9:36 a.m. PST |
Griefbringer
"On the other hand, if you ever pass by Kokkola, there is an opportunity to see a genuine mid-19th century Royal Navy landing boat on display"
Unfortunately Finns were on the wrong side! The launch appears to be painted white, which is odd, and the planking seems like it traverses the hull. They should definitely hang on to it. Have you got a photo of your cardboard boat?
This is cool:
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I'd like the boat to look good for gaming, but the men will be fighting skirmish figures so they'll be perched on top or next to it on their normal bases. It may as well have benches in that case. I believe they were painted all black with an ochre stripe. I was thinking of making it from card but what do you think of this 3" Zvezda model? I'd never get a card model to look so good and this one's $8.72 USD link Called a "Medieval lifeboat", it could be a 19th century Mediterranean fishing boat, but without that particular sail-layout, it's a jolly-boat. Here's it from the top: link Ed von HesseFedora
"Have you looked at Firelock Games? These might work" Thanks. Their figures are good. Is everything 28 mil? |
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