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The H Man12 Oct 2025 2:39 a.m. PST

Suffered through the sequel.

Had seen it before, but decided to watch again after watching the original.

Must have blocked it mentally, didn't remember much, which was good so I could suffer again and still find it new.

What went wrong?

Apparently Will Smith pulled out, so there was a hasty rewrite.

Just realised the entire concept was tosh.

The signal sent from the first defeated fleet of Aliens took 20 years to get somewhere, so that distance may be calculated. I'll leave it to someone else.

Then they had to do a wormhole to get the alien here in time.

Likely the first fleet traveled for a few million years, although we don't know they didn't use a wormhole, we certainly weren't shown it.

So that's some tomfoolery right up.

The first film were people in present normal day, with an alien invasion.

The sequel was people in a parallel universe, with super tech, and an alien invasion.

The first film was more serious.

The sequel was DEI.

Ironically they both had a female president, as the first lady in the original was the president in the BSG redo. I think.

Over the top cgi effects can't stand up to the better mix of effects in the first film.

It was just rubbish. Very disappointing.

Perhaps they could get will Smith back for a real sequel?

That scene where his son (I think, it was hard keeping up with which grown up character was which), punched the other guy, was funny reminded me of the awards.

Conveniently a lot happened off screen in the first film.

One ship landed and dug a hole.

The scientist didn't die and turned into Robin Williams.

There's a queen alien.

Hold on.

There's a signal sent from an alien ship that's destroyed when two/three guys in an experimental spaceship make a test flight.

Then the aliens in a distant galaxy travel into our space with a queen in tow. (The sequel did suggest there may have been a queen blown up in the first films mothership, but we didn't see it, and they don't know for sure)

On, an a seemingly omnipotent being, who seems hard to kill, shows up to help us.

Hmm…

Did I mention there's the scene with the queen getting into her body and the out of it when she dies??

Of course there's first contact with a new friendly race via a raised hand/s. Well, dah.

Of course, there is an alien sphere that crash lands.

Perhaps the next film should be set in the artic?

Or one of the aliens could be turned to our side, a hottie, of course.

To independently go, where no president has gone before…

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP12 Oct 2025 1:58 p.m. PST

I am with you, it was the studios way of destroying a franchise for sure!

The H Man12 Oct 2025 5:41 p.m. PST

Yes.

Also the kids in the car all looked like wierd AI or something.

One bit that got me was the Buddhist monks. One playing with the radio dial.

"Leave it alone, I'm trying to listen!" I was saying.

Hmm…

This brings me to:

Independence Day resurgence, Star Trek first contact, Star Wars.

Gosh.

All clones.

All have monks with funny hand gestures. Radio, Vulcan, Jedi.

All have hood reveals. Probably the aliens opening, I think the Vulcans did it?, Obi Wan.

Circles, circles everywhere. The symbols and ships and robot, the Borg sphere and earth, the death Star and practice drone.

They have a ship laser the planet. Alien ships into earth, the Borg sphere at earth??, The death Star.

So on.

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