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Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2025 6:43 a.m. PST

Simple rules. Either the singer is the killer, or is killed by his/her lover.
Passion, please. Not battles.

Prime example is
"Delilah" by Tom Jones. My favorite Welsh country singer.
YouTube link

Revenge, "Goodbye Earl", by the Dixie Chicks
YouTube link
(Earl needed killin'!)

Please include a link for our … pleasure.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2025 6:44 a.m. PST

Is this a "murder"? After Lord Daniel let Mattie Groves use his best sword!
"Mattie Groves", Doc Watson. This goes WAY back, to at least 14th c England. Doc gives it the American hill version.
YouTube link

panzerCDR27 Sep 2025 7:02 a.m. PST

How about:VICKI LAWRENCE "THE NIGHT THE LIGHTS WENT OUT IN GEORGIA" 1973? Does that meet the criteria?

YouTube link

Captain Sensible27 Sep 2025 7:08 a.m. PST

Hey Joe by Jimmi Hendrix. "Yes I did, I shot her
You know, I caught her messing around, messing around town."

YouTube link

Deucey Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2025 7:29 a.m. PST

Bohemian Rhapsody

(I don't think we need a link.)

Deucey Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2025 7:33 a.m. PST

El Paso
Marty Robbins

link

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2025 7:39 a.m. PST

@panzerCDR
Oh, that qualifies on so many levels. 😄👍🎼🎶

goibinu27 Sep 2025 7:45 a.m. PST

Where the Wild Roses Grow. Nick Drake and Kylie.

The Death of Emmett Till. Bob Dylan.

The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll. Bob Dylan.

14Bore27 Sep 2025 8:30 a.m. PST

Hey Joe
Or I Shot the Sheriff

Martin Rapier27 Sep 2025 8:33 a.m. PST

Bang Bang by Nancy Sinatra.

Personal logo lewis cannon Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2025 8:36 a.m. PST

Me and my Uncle. Jack Straw. Grateful Dead.

BigfootLover27 Sep 2025 8:46 a.m. PST

Def Leppard, "Don't Shoot Shotgun."

Personal logo x42brown Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2025 8:49 a.m. PST

Would 'Beautiful People' by The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band youtu.be/N6ueUDQeWfc count

x42

Grattan54 Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2025 8:55 a.m. PST

Down By The River, Neil Young

Also + Hey Joe by Hendrix

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian27 Sep 2025 9:07 a.m. PST

James the Rose by Steeleye Span

Old Glory Sponsoring Member of TMP27 Sep 2025 9:30 a.m. PST

Hang down your head Tom Dooley

The Last Conformist27 Sep 2025 9:32 a.m. PST

Where the Wild Roses Grow. Nick Drake and Kylie.

Nick Cave, of course. Did you get hit by autocorrupt?

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2025 9:35 a.m. PST

Please include a link for our … pleasure.

Why do people find it so hard to follow directions?
🙄

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2025 9:39 a.m. PST

Stagger Lee, Lloyd Price
YouTube link

There. I posted a link. It's not difficult. 🙄

goibinu27 Sep 2025 9:53 a.m. PST

@The Last Conformist.

That and a lack of proofreading obviously 🙄

goibinu27 Sep 2025 9:57 a.m. PST

Why do people find it so hard to follow directions?

Is your Google broken?

Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2025 10:25 a.m. PST

The Irish Ballad, Tom Lehrer. Many murders:

youtu.be/47bKTtIwrO4

Roland the Thompson Gunner, Warren Zevon. Murder and supernatural revenge murder.

youtu.be/zMewX8XuNes

Folsom Prison Blues, Johnny Cash. Shot a man in Nevada, but somehow ended up in prison in California: How'd that happen?

youtu.be/KEpM_VFZWLk

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2025 11:41 a.m. PST

Is your Google broken?

Mine isn't. Nor should it be for those who won't add a link to their suggestions. It's no more obtrusive than requiring everyone in a race to use the same starting line. 😄
If I were to be put in charge of compiling this for an actual poll (don't worry, there's no chance of that! 😄), I would disqualify any "suggestion" without a link.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2025 11:46 a.m. PST

YouTube link
"Pretty Polly", Ralph Stanley and Patty Loveless.
Fewer than 40% of bluegrass songs are murder ballads. 🙄

Frederick27 Sep 2025 12:21 p.m. PST

MacPherson's Rant – great Scots ballad

link

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian27 Sep 2025 12:22 p.m. PST
Panzerdillo27 Sep 2025 1:15 p.m. PST

Lou Reed, The Gun:
YouTube link

Foster the People, Pumped up Kicks:
YouTube link

Dead Kennedys, I Fought the Law:
YouTube link

Robert Cray, Still Hot Smoking Gun:
YouTube link

Greylegion27 Sep 2025 1:31 p.m. PST

Josie Escalido.

Della Jane's Heart

White River

Straw in the Wind

Bismarck27 Sep 2025 1:32 p.m. PST

Folsom Prison by Johnny Cash

"I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die."

Panzerdillo27 Sep 2025 1:35 p.m. PST

Oooh, forgot one --

AC/DC, Jailbreak:
YouTube link

Should this become a poll?

noggin2nog27 Sep 2025 1:43 p.m. PST

"He was a Steppenwolf" – Boney M:
YouTube link

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2025 1:49 p.m. PST

Six for the price of one:
Cell Block Tango
YouTube link

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2025 1:52 p.m. PST

n.b. Goodbye Earl should be credited to The Chicks — they changed the band name, and as listed in the video.

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2025 1:57 p.m. PST

Hazard by Richard Marx is my favourite! YouTube link

Ryan T27 Sep 2025 2:04 p.m. PST

Johnny Dowd has two excellent murder songs on his Wrong Side of Memphis album: "Murder" and "First There Was".

YouTube link

YouTube link

Moonbeast27 Sep 2025 3:10 p.m. PST

"American Nightmare" by The Misfits. Glen Danzig's attempt at sounding like Elvis Presley. Whom he was a big fan of BTW.

14Bore27 Sep 2025 3:21 p.m. PST

Actually Punped up Kicks is more in my music taste these days.
The song goes from a 3rd person to the murderer, or at least wanting to murderer

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2025 4:06 p.m. PST

Links?
LINKS?????

Personal logo Nashville Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2025 4:11 p.m. PST

Many of these songs were turned into rap lyrics which were used against my client to convict him of homicide. Not so fast. the case was reversed because of that.. art imitates life.

Tennessee Appeals Court overturns Nashville conviction based on rap lyric evidence
Nashville Tennessean


Merely singing about shooting a sheriff would not convict Bob Marley of murder, no more than writing about burying a man under the floorboards would convict Edgar Allen Poe.

But rapping about "a bloody murder scene, it's killing season," did help convict William Britton of second-degree murder in 2022, attorney David Raybin argued. Tennessee Court of Criminal Appeals Judge Camille McMullen agreed.

In an opinion filed Tuesday, McMullen overturned Britton's conviction and remanded the case back to a Davidson County courtroom for a new trial after she found evidence — rap lyrics and screen shots of music videos —presented during the trial were highly prejudicial.

"Given the inflammatory nature of the Defendant's rap lyrics/videos, we conclude that their admission raised a significant risk that the jury convicted the Defendant of second degree murder on improper grounds," McMullen wrote in the opinion.

Britton is currently serving 18 years at Trousdale Turner Correctional Center.

A spokesman for the District Attorney's Office said Thursday their office and the Tennessee Attorney General's office are having conversations about appealing the case to the Tennessee Supreme Court, though no decision has been made.

Raybin said he, and his client's family, were overjoyed to get the opinion Tuesday.

"This decision is based on cases from all over the country. It is the correct decision," Raybin said by phone Thursday. "This particular issue has nothing to do with the defendant and it's all about their art. They're being punished for being rappers. First Amendment art cannot be used to convict him."

Raybin said he thinks this case will set a new precedent.

"We set this wonderful precedent here in Music City," he said. "It will have far reaching effects across the state and stop this insidious practice of punishing people for their music. It not only helps this young man but will help other people. It helps move the law forward in a good way."

Nine gunshots on Herman Street
Britton was charged with criminal homicide in May 2020 after 20-year-old Kendall Ostine was gunned down near the intersection of Herman and Blank Streets at the Andrew Jackson Apartments.


Britton, who did not live at the complex, was there with family who did. The group was getting ready to celebrate another family member's release from jail when Ostine came upon them walking down Herman Street, according to testimony.

Britton and his half-brother testified they were sitting on a rock wall when Ostine approached on the opposite side of the road and began instigating a fight. They both testified Ostine used profane language and called them a racial slur.

"The Defendant said the victim then reached for his waistband 'like he had a weapon' which made the Defendant pull out his weapon because he was 'scared,'" the opinion said.

A knife with a red handle was found with Ostine's body.

Britton fired nine rounds. The first a warning shot, he testified, and the rest because Ostine wouldn't stop reaching for his waistband. Ostine suffered seven gunshot wounds to his chest, the front right arm, the back, the right buttock, the left thigh and two shots to the right leg, according to testimony.

Rap lyrics and Britton's intent
Britton supplemented his income by performing as a rapper under the name "Lil Will." He wrote music that glorified gun culture and homicides. All of that was written and recorded before Ostine was killed.

Despite the music being published before the killing, Assistant District Attorney Amy Hunter argued the lyrics spoke to his state of mind.

"Your Honor, the State has evidence…that shows that the Defendant doesn't just carry a gun when he's scared or when it's situational, that this is an event — that killing somebody is something that he's thought a lot about," Hunter said during trial. "He is obsessed with guns. He is obsessed with wanting to use them. He's obsessed with murder scenes. And he's so obsessed with them that he writes songs about them, and he sings about them."

Attorney Caleb Cassell, who represented Britton at trial, staunchly disagreed with Hunter's premise for admitting the lyrics into evidence.

"This is artistic expression," Cassell said. "This junk [is not] real…If this were the case, then what the State's case would be is that [for] every rapper in the history of the world, [the State's] got probable cause to believe that they're going to commit a murder because they all talk about it. That's not probable cause."

Ultimately, Davidson County Judge Mark Fishburn allowed Hunter to cross-examine Britton about the rap lyrics.

When questioned, Britton said, "it's just a song.

"That don't mean that's how I am. That's how I make money, and that's what this youth want to hear about," Britton said.

Hunter, in her closing arguments, again brought up the lyrics.

"Not every single person who's a rap artist is a murderer even if they rap about things like that, but this Defendant is," Hunter said. "And sometimes life imitates art, and sometimes art imitates life."

Ultimately, the jury didn't buy the state's argument of premeditation and instead of finding Britton guilty of frist-degree murder, he was found guilty of the lesser second-degree murder.

Regardless, McMullen found the usage of the rap lyrics improper.

"The trial court abused its discretion in admitting evidence of the Defendant's rap lyrics/videos, and this error was not harmless," McMullen wrote in the opinion.

Black Bull27 Sep 2025 4:34 p.m. PST

Millers Cave
YouTube link

T Andrews27 Sep 2025 4:50 p.m. PST

Country Death Song-Violent Femmes
YouTube link

Personal logo piper909 Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2025 8:46 p.m. PST

Here's a good old classic Irish one: The Old Oak Tree by the Boys of the Lough: YouTube link

"And ever since that fateful hour
She stands before my eyes --
I think I see her bleeding corpse
And hear her dying cries!"

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP28 Sep 2025 12:42 a.m. PST

This thread reminds me how many murder song there are! let alone the artists who cover classics and 'murder' them!

OSCS7428 Sep 2025 6:21 a.m. PST

"Why do people find it so hard to follow directions?"

We resist the man (or Meister in this case)! Power to the people!!!

Bismark +1
Folsom Prison by Johnny Cash

Tgerritsen Supporting Member of TMP28 Sep 2025 8:14 a.m. PST

Murder By Numbers- The Police. link

Mack The Knife by Bobby Darrin link

Personal logo piper909 Supporting Member of TMP28 Sep 2025 10:30 a.m. PST

Elvis Costello with the Chieftains: "St. Stephen's Day Murders" is very cheeky. YouTube link

Major Mike28 Sep 2025 11:16 a.m. PST

Cocaine Blues by Johnny Cash YouTube link

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP28 Sep 2025 1:24 p.m. PST

I don't think Matty groves is a murder ballad as such – Lord Darnly does allow Matty the best sword and a first strike.

But a great topic! Here's 3 from The Decemberists

Decemberists – Mariner's Revenge Song

YouTube link

Decemberists – The Rake's Song

YouTube link

Decemberists – Hazards of Love 3 (Revenge)

In which the murdered children get their revenge

YouTube link

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP28 Sep 2025 3:40 p.m. PST

"Parry! Parry! Thrust! Thrust! Good!"
I think Lord Daniel (in Doc's version…) was in no danger. 🙄

Personal logo Dal Gavan Supporting Member of TMP28 Sep 2025 4:02 p.m. PST

Dr Hook The Wild Colonial Boy. YouTube link

Worth watching just to hear a Yank pronounce "kookaburra" correctly.

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