"Wargames Atlantic announces 8% price increase" Topic

Just received an email from W.A., and I also confirmed it on their News section of their website. There will be an across the board 8% increase on all boxed products. Since 2019 they managed to hold their prices steady, for a solid six years. But now with all the recent developments they simply have no choice.

And I would like every TMP member to actually go to their website and PLEASE read their statement and the reasons why the price increases are taking place. It is 100% spot on, regardless of where you stand politically, what they say is FACTUAL.

We did not have this chaos this time last year. We did not have tariffs this time last year. We did not have wild disruptions to supply chains this time last year. We DID have decreasing inflation, along with one of the best and strongest recoveries post-Covid. And we had robust and secure business being conducted across the oceans between respected trading partners. And last year I could order miniatures from companies like Perry from across the Atlantic. Not now.

All of that has been blown to smithereens. And we know why. And by who. Good night.

+1 Baranovich

We've had a couple of these threads now. Gotta be honest it's getting tiresome. We know the prices are going up. We are also almost exclusively grown men who play with army men. Can we please get back to pushing soldiers around and going pew pew?

Can you provide a link? I don't see it on their website.

Then don't read the post and go back playing with toy soldiers.

Watching people rage about small price increases in toy soldiers is like a car wreck…hard to look away from.

smithsco, how do you feel about the various non-wargaming posts pushing politics on this website? I see quite a few of those by the usual suspects definitely promoting certain ideologies. That becomes tiresome. This is wargaming related and does touch up on politics. The small price increases might be for the consumer but it will greatly affect the manufacturers and sellers of these toy soldiers.

Posts that make me think politics, like this one, annoy me. Arguing about modern warfare is far different from arguing about politics. It's true this will all impact manufacturers. The above post isn't interested in that angle. It's politics and it's been hashed and rehashed already. It's deja vu all over again

War IS politics.

I generally don't comment on political posts because there is no point to it, unless you like talking politics, which I don't.

OP, I think you would have been better served by stopping at the ends of line number four. Don't make an unpolitical reference political.

Personally, I think things will work themselves out. As noted above, we play with toy soldiers.

Speaking of toy soldiers, there is not a government in the world that cares whether its citizens can import toy soldiers at the price they want or have grown accustomed to. They also do not care if this cottage industry goes under. Something will fill the void.

I am spending this time culling my collection and deciding what is really important to me.

Good day, and good gaming.

War is politics but our esteemed fellow members seem incapable of discussing politics without it devolving to "stupid wokies" or "orange man bad"

@smithsco
Is it possible to support both positions simultaneously?
Asking for a friend. 🙄

Even with price increases due to tariffs, once the bureaucratic changes in collecting the tariffs have been completed, British manufactured miniatures will be far cheaper for Americans than they were in the 90s and early 2000s when the dollar was weaker compared to the British pound:https://www.macrotrends.net/2549/pound-dollar-exchange-rate-historical-chart

"We did not have this chaos this time last year."

How soon you seem to have forgotten the even worse chaos of 2020-2021.

"We DID have decreasing inflation, along with one of the best and strongest recoveries post-Covid."

I'm not sure what you are smoking when you wrote this, or if you just have short term, selective memory.

-1 Baranovich

+1 Murphy

@OFM

I think that holding both at the same time is frequently the most rational place to be.

+1 smithco and Murphy

"How soon you seem to have forgotten the even worse chaos of 2020-2021."

😂 yes, and much more important things then toy soldiers.

+1 Murphy

Does anyone remember living through the late 1970s inflation of over 13%? I had a house mortgage with a 9% interest rate in spite of always having great credit. I got a 12% raise one year in that period that did not even catch me up. The yes high inflation of 2021 and 2022 of 8-9% was bad. Anyone wish to go back and have a recession instead? Economics is not drawn with a fine point.

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Wargames Atlantic's price increase won't make any difference in the immediate future:

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In 1982, when I was a young man earning minimum wage, I took out a personal loan at 15% from our local Savings & Loan to buy a personal computer. My student loans were at 8%, which everyone thought was a great deal. We all freaked in ~1983 when gas hit $1 USD a gallon.

What was the topic? An 8% increase in Wargames Atlantic plastics? That's sales tax where I live.

It appears the content originally posted on the WA website concerning their price increase has now been edited to remove political commentary that first appeared.

So if you do go there and read the edited version and then the comments, they won't exactly line up any more.

WA seems like a business savvy company making multiple proactive moves to mitigate costs.

Why would they originally post comments that could alienate half their customer base in the US?

They removed most of the commentary, but they just ensured I don't purchase another product from them ever again.

I did the math, and since they released the Raumjager, I've bought roughly $4,200 USD worth of their sets (about 126 boxes in total). Some people just can't resist the temptation, apparently.

You got 9% Rusty? I was in double digits when we bought our first home in 1979. And I can remember court cases--late 60's or early 70's--about whether imported British lead were "toy soldiers" or "military miniatures" because different tariff schedules applied to those two very different things. The Pound at $1.37 USD? I can remember the Pound at $2.40 USD, with every (pre-decimalization) British penny one American cent. Don't get me started on pre-Internet searches for out of print books. Not even my own son believes me.

Anyway, hard to get too excited over "there will be a 10% tax and a delay of a week or two while we work out how to pay it."

smithsco+1, Mister Tibbs +1

2020-2024 25% increase on food, could not afford to buy a new car.

An 8% increase on a hobby item and the world is going to end.

Oh, the 2025 Honda drives great.

-2 Oberlindes Sol LIC

Just to remind folks that War is what happens when politics and diplomacy fails. This current event should be an opportunity for US manufacturers to step up their game and add more selections "Made in the USA" and avoid the domestic tariffs! Isn't Wargames Atlantic made on both sides of the Atlantic? (Doesn't affect me as I do not game in their scales.)

+1 Baranovich

In the late 1970s, the interest rate on a CD was 12%. The WIN buttons, whip Inflation Now.we made through those price hikes. And I through these now.

But if you turned your WIN button upside down, it read NIM--no immediate miracles.

WE are winning

I suppose we should be happy that Wargames Atlantic is only raising their prices by 8% and absorbing the other 2%.

Grelber

We've had a couple of these threads now. Gotta be honest it's getting tiresome. We know the prices are going up. We are also almost exclusively grown men who play with army men. Can we please get back to pushing soldiers around and going pew pew?

Probably going to get more, so maybe don't read, and take the medicine being encouraged to others. If the read can be resisted, and the medicine is being taken, the tiredness might be self cured. ; )

Wargames Atlantic's price increase won't make any difference in the immediate future:

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Yep, besides European countries like Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Italy, the U.K., France, Austria, Norway, Spain, Switzerland, Chezia, other countries like Australia, India, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Thailand Singapore, and New Zealand have all also suspended shipments to the USA.