
"Royal Standard Bearers - Y & L" Topic
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Eumelus  | 19 Aug 2025 11:25 a.m. PST |
Does anyone know the name (and ideally the arms) of the standard-bearer of Edward IV in any of his battles? And same question for Henry VI, on those occasions when he was present at a battle (1st StA, Northampton, etc)? |
DisasterWargamer  | 19 Aug 2025 12:28 p.m. PST |
Quick search yielded Reference to Standard Bearer for England link For Edward IV Sir David Mathew for Edward IV – Towton was the battle where Edward acknowledged him Grand Standard Bearer for England link Ralph Vestynden is also listed as a standard bearer during Towton for Edward with the Black Bull Standard link Neville "may have" also had that role during the battle of Barnet For Henry VI Sir William Brandon who died at Bosworth. His brother Thomas was also listed as a standard bearer. link Visits to Fields of Battle, in England, of the Fifteenth Century link Note there were some internet references to a Sir Willima Burton also being a standard bear for Henry VI and dying at Towton |
MajorB | 19 Aug 2025 2:40 p.m. PST |
The Earl of Wiltshire was standard bearer to Henry VI at 1st St Albans. |
MajorB | 19 Aug 2025 2:42 p.m. PST |
Sir William Brandon who died at Bosworth. I think that was Henry Tudor (later Henry VII) not Henry VI |
DisasterWargamer  | 19 Aug 2025 2:44 p.m. PST |
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Eumelus  | 19 Aug 2025 4:47 p.m. PST |
Many thanks to DisasterWargamer for the quick replies. Two notes: (1) The Wiki link shows "or, a lion sable" for the arms of Sir David Matthew. Isn't that also the arms of Flanders? (2) It does seem that Sir William Burton is a strong possibility for Henry VI's standard-bearer at later battles than 1st SA (thanks to Major B for the Wiltshire tip – didn't Wiltshire flee from 1st SA somewhat ingloriously?). I can't find arms for Burton on Wiki yet. |
Dal Gavan  | 21 Aug 2025 5:48 a.m. PST |
Eumelus, I did a bit of a search and found this on link : Sir William Burton was the standard bearer for King Henry VI in France from 1421 to 1429. He sadly died at the Battle of Towton in 1461. As for a crest, link refers to "Burton of Falde Hall, co. Staffordshire, England – Sir William Burton (c. 1391-1461)" and gives the arms as azure a fess or, three hound (talbot?) heads erased or. |
MacColla | 30 Aug 2025 10:17 a.m. PST |
Graham Turner has painted Ralph Verstynden with the Black Bull standard – the picture is in his Ward of the Roses book and is accessible on his Studio 88 website. The picture shows Verstynden in armour rather than a surcoat but there's no trace of arms for that name in the Armorial Generale of Europe so he may not have had them. |
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