"M203 - M433 HEDP rounds." Topic
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| UshCha | 13 Aug 2025 7:28 a.m. PST |
The M203 grenade launchers can fire M433 HEDP rounds. These have a Straight plate penetration of 50mm armour enought to penetrate an M113 or BMP-1 frontaly. Wikipeadia says up to 150m rtange, I guess because it needs to hit at a reasonable angle and the short range means leading the target if moving is not too sensitive.
Anybody care to comment on the penetration ability, max range and avaiablity of the round, prticulary but not limited to the 1980's. Would this round fit the M79? Thanks in advance Brian |
| Maggot | 13 Aug 2025 10:27 a.m. PST |
as an infantryman in the early 90s, I never once saw anything other than HE, starshell, practice and smoke rounds for the M203-with practice being by far the most common (when we used smoke and starshell, they were almost always the handheld type, never actually getting the 203 rounds for them). It was actually quite rare for us to even live fire the 203, as to where rifles, SAWs and GPMGs were live fired multiple times a month. To be honest, I do not recall ever seeing such an anti-vehicle round, or knowing that it even existed (outside of a correspondence course on the M203). The M79 was gone before my time, but I believe the rounds (of all types) were identical. Being in a DRF ready unit, with no knowledge of such of round, and having 6 M203s in each platoon, my guess is that round was very rare. |
| Rakkasan | 13 Aug 2025 9:18 p.m. PST |
My experience is similar to Maggot's and believe the round was not readily available.
We did not train with or learn about that munition in the mid to late 1980's and it was not issued in the 3rd Brigade of the 101st for training or operational deployments such as Desert Storm in the late 80s through early 90s. It was not issued in the 2nd Armored Division/4th Infantry Division in the early to mid 1990's.
According to our NCO trainers in the 80s, the munitions used in the M79 could be used in the M203. I cannot verify that as the M79 was not being used when I joined the Army. |
 Dal Gavan  | 14 Aug 2025 3:24 a.m. PST |
Would this round fit the M79? I can't be sure about that particular round because we never had it before I left Infantry. All the 40mm rounds we had for the 203 could be fired by the M79 as well, which was still being used by the ARes into the mid '80s. |
| UshCha | 17 Aug 2025 11:17 p.m. PST |
Thanks all, clerly I have not missed a critical feature in our rules. Just one of those things, it supposedly exsists but in eality its not worth including as its use was so rare I would not include it. |
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