Editor in Chief Bill  | 12 Jun 2025 6:27 p.m. PST |
Operation Rising Lion. Fox News: link |
35thOVI  | 12 Jun 2025 6:40 p.m. PST |
Yep, was pretty sure it was going to happen based on last 2 days and state department warning yesterday. Sounds pretty successful so far. |
Inch High Guy | 12 Jun 2025 6:53 p.m. PST |
They are saying this is the beginning of a campaign, not just a single strike. Goal is to eliminate Iran's nuclear and ballistic missile programs and the key people behind them. Link: link |
35thOVI  | 12 Jun 2025 7:06 p.m. PST |
Sounds like scientists and top military officers gone already. |
Inch High Guy | 12 Jun 2025 7:23 p.m. PST |
This is why the U.S. diverted the APKWS (Advanced Precision Kill Weapons System) promised to Ukraine to the ME and has been evacuating embassy staff and non-essential base personnel for the last several days. |
smithsco | 12 Jun 2025 7:24 p.m. PST |
Chief of Staff or the IRGC is dead. Yesterday he said the next fight with Israeli would be crushing…the man is a prescient as he is likely buried in rubble. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy… |
SBminisguy | 12 Jun 2025 8:35 p.m. PST |
I hope they hit all the IRGC barracks and C2I centers, they are direct regime control storm troopers. |
korsun0  | 12 Jun 2025 11:09 p.m. PST |
Good job. Does Iran have AA capabilities? If so, they don't seem to work (except on commercial airliners). |
foxbat  | 12 Jun 2025 11:18 p.m. PST |
I'll say it's too soon to assess how successfull the strike was. The next few hours will tell us how crippled Iran's retaliation capabilities are. I remember seeing a few videos of huge underground missile complexes, so I guess Iron Dome will be put to an extended test. What I fear the most is that the strike on Natanz could be reciprocated with a strike on Dimona… |
Zephyr1 | 12 Jun 2025 11:26 p.m. PST |
Glad I bought gas earlier today, I'm expecting prices to spike now. There's a site called 'Israel Radar' that provides up-to-date news (sorry, I don't have the exact link) that I've seen mentioned on another forum. |
Gunny B | 12 Jun 2025 11:26 p.m. PST |
Yep, Iran has just too many systems for Israel to take out in one go. Some level of retaliation is on its way, the only question is if Iran will go after US targets or not? It makes no sense for them to do so but hey, not sure sense has a bearing on it! |
Cuprum2 | 13 Jun 2025 1:21 a.m. PST |
Mossad carried out three special operations to damage Iran's strategic missile array and air defense capabilities using Iranian territory: • Mossad squads in central Iran deployed precision-guided weapons systems in open areas near Iranian air defense systems; when Israel launched an air attack, these systems were activated and missiles were fired at their targets; • In another operation, Mossad installed kill systems on vehicles to damage Iranian air defenses threatening Israeli fighters; these weapons completely destroyed their targets; • Long before Israel attacked, Mossad had created and deployed a base of explosive-laden drones in Iran; during the attack, they were activated and fired at surface-to-surface missile launchers at the Asfahabad base near Tehran. Strange. So who actually came up with the operation, allegedly devised by the Ukrainian special services? Iran Attacks Israel With 150 Shaheds. Attack Completely Repulsed… |
Gunny B | 13 Jun 2025 2:16 a.m. PST |
So Iran hits back with around 100 drones. Mmm, pretty sure that won't be all. |
goibinu | 13 Jun 2025 3:26 a.m. PST |
Good job. Does Iran have AA capabilities? If so, they don't seem to work (except on commercial airliners). USS Vincennes. |
Kuznetsov  | 13 Jun 2025 5:05 a.m. PST |
Iran's leadership is going to end up in a bad situation when it becomes apparent they don't have much capacity for real retaliation. |
Tortorella  | 13 Jun 2025 5:11 a.m. PST |
Finally….thank you Israel. |
foxbat  | 13 Jun 2025 5:18 a.m. PST |
"Iran Attacks Israel With 150 Shaheds. Attack Completely Repulsed…" People were expecting they were in advance of a missile strike to saturate israeli air defences, which came to naught. OTOH, there are reports of Qatari & Turkish fighterss assisting US & NATO air assets in the interception of Iranian drones over Iraq & Syria. Which, IMO, speaks volumes and is a telltale The Israeli operation was fairly successful and that perhaps, Iran can't reliably retaliate. |
Tgerritsen  | 13 Jun 2025 7:51 a.m. PST |
Israel hit Irans AA systems extensively last year. Iran has not been able to rebuild. |
Legion 4  | 13 Jun 2025 8:51 a.m. PST |
Yes … finally Hell came to breakfast … The IDF once again proved the superiority over the islamic forces of the region. E.g. Hamas, Hezbollah, and now Iran. The Mossad gets support from the Iranian underground as they hate the theocratic leaders of their nation. They used a similar tactic with drones that the Ukrainian Forces used against Russia. Yes, the IDF did the standard tactic of SEADS – Suppression of Enemy Air Defense Systems. As Tgerritsen mentioned. So, it appears Iran has 0 effective ADA/AAA. Iran controls none of their airspace. The IDF does … They also used the classic move of killing of much of Iran's leadership, even killing 6 of their nuke scientists. Cutting of the heads of the snake/hydra. Also posted here … Iran's drone attack was taken out of the sky. Accomplishing 0 … As mentioned the strikes are continuing … and will until Iran will have little capabilities to produce nukes. The POTUS gave them many chances to end their nuke program. The islamic theocracy chose poorly … You have to look at what led up to all this … Besides the Iranian islamic theocratic death cult's hatred of Israel, the US, etc., etc. The last POTUS did not enforce the strict sanctions that Trump had put on previously. The also gave billions of $ to Iran. Which ended up going to supporting islamic terrorism. E.g. 7 Oct, but much of it was used on their quest to get deployable nukes. Obama did similar … again billions of $ to the islamic death cult i.e. Iran … So much blood on those hands that tried to appease an islamic death cults. By giving them billions of $. USD Appeasement almost never works … especially with islamic religious fanatics. Good shoot'n IDF … keep it up … you are doing the civilized world a favor. As well as all of Iran's proxies/pawns, e.g. Hamas, Hezbollah, islamic Jihad, Al Axa, etc. |
Legion 4  | 13 Jun 2025 8:51 a.m. PST |
Yes … finally Hell came to breakfast … The IDF once again proved the superiority of the islamic forces of the region. E.g. Hamas, Hezbollah, and now Iran. The Mossad gets support from the Iranian underground as they hate the theocratic leaders of their nation. They used a similar tactic with drones that the Ukrainian Forces used against Russia. Yes, the IDF did the standard tactic of SEADS – Suppression of Enemy Air Defense Systems. As Tgerritsen mentioned. So, it appears Iran has 0 effective ADA/AAA. Iran controls none of their airspace. The IDF does … They also used the classic move of killing of much of Iran's leadership, even killing 6 of their nuke scientists. Cutting of the heads of the snake/hydra. Also posted here … Iran's drone attack was taken out of the sky. Accomplishing 0 … As mentioned the strikes are continuing … and will until Iran will have little capabilities to produce nukes. The POTUS gave them many chances to end their nuke program. The islamic theocracy chose poorly … You have to look at what led up to all this … Besides the Iranian islamic theocratic death cult's hatred of Israel, the US, etc., etc. The last POTUS did not enforce the strict sanctions that Trump had put on previously. The also gave billions of $ to Iran. Which ended up going to supporting islamic terrorism. E.g. 7 Oct, but much of it was used on their quest to get deployable nukes. Obama did similar … again billions of $ to the islamic death cult i.e. Iran … So much blood on those hands that tried to appease an islamic death cults. By giving them billions of $. USD Appeasement almost never works … especially with islamic religious fanatics. Good shoot'n IDF … keep it up … you are doing the civilized world a favor. As well as all of Iran's proxies/pawns, e.g. Hamas, Hezbollah, islamic Jihad, Al Axa, etc. |
Legion 4  | 13 Jun 2025 8:51 a.m. PST |
Yes … finally Hell came to breakfast … The IDF once again proved the superiority of the islamic forces of the region. E.g. Hamas, Hezbollah, and now Iran. The Mossad gets support from the Iranian underground as they hate the theocratic leaders of their nation. They used a similar tactic with drones that the Ukrainian Forces used against Russia. Yes, the IDF did the standard tactic of SEADS – Suppression of Enemy Air Defense Systems. As Tgerritsen mentioned. So, it appears Iran has 0 effective ADA/AAA. Iran controls none of their airspace. The IDF does … They also used the classic move of killing of much of Iran's leadership, even killing 6 of their nuke scientists. Cutting of the heads of the snake/hydra. Also posted here … Iran's drone attack was taken out of the sky. Accomplishing 0 … As mentioned the strikes are continuing … and will until Iran will have little capabilities to produce nukes. The POTUS gave them many chances to end their nuke program. The islamic theocracy chose poorly … You have to look at what led up to all this … Besides the Iranian islamic theocratic death cult's hatred of Israel, the US, etc., etc. The last POTUS did not enforce the strict sanctions that Trump had put on previously. The also gave billions of $ to Iran. Which ended up going to supporting islamic terrorism. E.g. 7 Oct, but much of it was used on their quest to get deployable nukes. Obama did similar … again billions of $ to the islamic death cult i.e. Iran … So much blood on those hands that tried to appease an islamic death cults. By giving them billions of $. USD Appeasement almost never works … especially with islamic religious fanatics. Good shoot'n IDF … keep it up … you are doing the civilized world a favor. As well as all of Iran's proxies/pawns, e.g. Hamas, Hezbollah, islamic Jihad, Al Axa, etc. To paraphrase ADM Kirk, "Let them Die" …☠ Wyatt Earp – "You tell'm I'm coming and I'm bringing Hell with me " …😡👿 Paraphrasing GEN Sheridan – "The only good islamic terrorist is a dead islamic terrorist" …💀 Paraphrasing GW CSM 40K – "Let Iran burn" … 🚀🔥💥 🤩😎 |
Grattan54  | 13 Jun 2025 9:53 a.m. PST |
I am hearing four top military leaders dead along with six scientists and the air force is gone. |
Gunny B | 13 Jun 2025 10:21 a.m. PST |
Kill list so far (from ISW, military/Defence types) Armed Forces General Staff (AFGS) Chief Major General Mohammad Bagheri Khatam ol Anbia Central Headquarters Commander Major General Gholam Ali Rashid Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) Commander Major General Hossein Salami IRGC Aerospace Force Commander Brigadier General Amir Ali Hajji Zadeh Former Supreme National Security Council Secretary Rear Admiral Ali Shamkhan |
Buck215 | 13 Jun 2025 1:05 p.m. PST |
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StoneMtnMinis  | 13 Jun 2025 2:09 p.m. PST |
The US is actively helping defend Israel against the muslim missile attacks. link |
Tortorella  | 13 Jun 2025 2:49 p.m. PST |
Some Iranian missiles got through, a number of civilians wounded. |
Cuprum2 | 13 Jun 2025 8:07 p.m. PST |
Here is the answer. There have been about six powerful missile attacks on Israel and Tel Aviv. Each wave contains at least a hundred missiles, plus an unknown number of drones. The missiles break through Israel's air defenses. Eyewitnesses record a large number of explosions. At least two missiles hit the Israeli Defense Ministry building. On video, the destruction in Israel looks significant. Iran announced the shooting down of three Israeli aircraft – 2 F-16s and 1 F-35. A female pilot was taken prisoner. Israel attacks Iran's oil infrastructure. Iran threatens to attack military bases of any countries that intervene in the conflict on Israel's side. link At the end of the video, the Israeli army spokesman's speech about the progress of repelling Iran's attack on Israel was interrupted by an announcement over the loudspeaker in the building. |
Cuprum2 | 13 Jun 2025 10:39 p.m. PST |
Iran has released a photo of a downed F-35. If this is not a fake artificial intelligence, and so far experts have found no reason to think so, this is the first combat loss of a fifth-generation aircraft in history.
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Cuprum2 | 13 Jun 2025 10:46 p.m. PST |
"The Russian expeditionary corps should not be expected in Iran, Alexey Zhuravlev, First Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Defense Committee, told NEWS.ru. According to him, the relevant points were deleted from the agreement between the Russian Federation and the Islamic Republic at the request of Tehran." link |
Gunny B | 14 Jun 2025 1:47 a.m. PST |
ISW boys are working over time for this one, three reports banged out already. Latest update includes Iran 'counter attack no2'. Roughly 100 ballistic missiles in two or three waves. Most intercepted but a handful have made it through, shame but inevitable. No Israeli deaths reported yet which is the main thing, but will happen I'm sure. Unless the Iranians pull something miraculous out of the bag this is likely to be a one way deal. |
smithsco | 14 Jun 2025 2:59 a.m. PST |
That's not an F35…also the rudder is on backwards so I would say AI generated. Not an expert but it's fairly obvious |
Tgerritsen  | 14 Jun 2025 3:02 a.m. PST |
An F117 was shot down in Bosnia decades ago. That was the first 5th Gen aircraft shot down. |
Gunny B | 14 Jun 2025 3:16 a.m. PST |
You seen the footage from the Iranian news channel? Clip from a computer game showing two F35's shot down at low altitude by AAA. Bless, there will of course be Muslim morons who think it's real. |
foxbat  | 14 Jun 2025 4:23 a.m. PST |
Various converging informations suggest the Mullahs regime may be experiencing internal troubles - graffitis like above appearing in the capital - trouble brewing in Baluchistan - and last but not least, reports some mysterious planes are leaving Teheran despite the closed airspace. I'm well aware all this may be faked, but what is certain is that there does exist a powerful opposition against Khameini and that the current weakening of the regime may well be the opening they've been waiting for. |
Inch High Guy | 14 Jun 2025 4:59 a.m. PST |
The "downed F-35" photos that Iranians are peddling are obvious fakes. As smithsco points out the vertical tail surfaces are on backwards. Also the fuselage national insignia on F-35s are carried near the nose under the cockpit, not at the tail. I am 99% sure this is true of every air force which operates the F-35, I double checked the IAF jets to make sure. I don't know of any IAF jet which carries the insignia at the rear of the fuselage, but you need to photoshop the insignia in there to sell the fake as Israeli. |
Cuprum2 | 14 Jun 2025 5:45 a.m. PST |
Yes, it turned out to be a fake. This photo is not and was not on the Iranian website where it was previously claimed to have appeared. |
Inch High Guy | 14 Jun 2025 6:05 a.m. PST |
Credit to Cuprum2 for the follow up. I have a correction as well, for my part I have since located photos of an Italian F-35A with national insignia near the tail as well as a USN F-35C, but all the IAF F-35A photos show the insignia under the cockpit as I indicated. I have not been able to identify the squadron markings on the tail, I was hoping to track down the source photo from that. |
35thOVI  | 14 Jun 2025 6:23 a.m. PST |
China sides with Iran! 😱🙄 |
Cuprum2 | 14 Jun 2025 8:21 a.m. PST |
35thOVI, you are oversimplifying. It is against the US. Since Israel is a proxy of the US, China will help its opponents. But this does not mean that it has claims directly against Israel. Both the Arabs and the Turks do not like Iran, but one way or another they will also support it in the fight against Israel. Russia will also fulfill its obligations to Iran, including arms supplies. This does not mean that Russia is Israel's enemy. Although there are rumors that Israel supplied weapons to Ukraine, including one Patriot battery, and it can be assumed that the Israeli special services provided assistance to the Ukrainian special services in the attack on strategic aviation. And now the Israelis have made claims against Russia for supplying Pantsirs to Iran… A world proxy war is a very complicated thing))) |
Legion 4  | 14 Jun 2025 8:25 a.m. PST |
AFAIK no IDF assets were shot down by what little ADA assets Iran had left. The IDF continues to take out military targets including equipment, structures and personnel … all of military value or nuke production etc. Both Putin and Xi support Iran … No surprise there …
Israel supports the 75-80% of Iranians who want to get rid of their 15th century islamic theocratic leadership … Albeit it some moslem nations condemn the IDF strikes. Behind the curtain they don't want Iran to have nukes. No one should … If Iran continues to be defiant and launch strikes on Israel. The Ayatollah may have to be taken out and their oil refineries, etc. destroyed. Which will certainly upset Putin & Xi … But it has been made even clearer, they are our enemies. And yes that photo of an F-35(?) was photoshopped … it is a fake … The US is actively helping defend Israel against the muslim missile attacks. Yes as noted, the USN has DDGs off the coast and Army has Patriots plus THAADs in country to help to shoot down Iranian incoming. BTW the USA has 10,000 US citizens in Isreal. They must be protected … Certain places in Iran should look like a moonscape … |
Legion 4  | 14 Jun 2025 8:25 a.m. PST |
AFAIK no IDF assets were shot down by what little ADA assets Iran had left. The IDF continues to take out military targets including equipment, structures and personnel … all of military value or nuke production etc. Both Putin and Xi support Iran … No surprise there …
Israel supports the 75-80% of Iranians who want to get rid of their 15th century islamic theocratic leadership … Albeit it some moslem nations condemn the IDF strikes. Behind the curtain they don't want Iran to have nukes. No one should … If Iran continues to be defiant and launch strikes on Israel. The Ayatollah may have to be taken out and their oil refineries, etc. destroyed. Which will certainly upset Putin & Xi … But it has been made even clearer, they are our enemies. And yes that photo of an F-35(?) was photoshopped … it is a fake … The US is actively helping defend Israel against the muslim missile attacks. Yes as noted, the USN has DDGs off the coast and Army has Patriots plus THAADs in country to help to shoot down Iranian incoming. BTW the USA has 10,000 US citizens in Isreal. They must be protected … Certain places in Iran should look like a moonscape … |
Cuprum2 | 14 Jun 2025 8:38 a.m. PST |
Well, for Russia this war is definitely beneficial – it will lead to an increase in oil prices, and therefore an increase in the income of the Russian budget. And if Iran were to block shipping in the Strait of Hormuz, it would be manna from heaven. Although this is unlikely… Too radical a decision. But in Ukraine in the near future I expect new bloody provocations – Zelensky will need to somehow attract attention to himself and to the Ukrainian conflict. |
Legion 4  | 14 Jun 2025 6:37 p.m. PST |
The IDF already has warned Iran and made plans to cripple Iran's oil and gas resources. If that happens Iran's gov't will be toppled or die. Then where will Putin get all the support that Iran gave Russia ? What will China do ? |
Cuprum2 | 14 Jun 2025 8:56 p.m. PST |
Come on… The Israeli army couldn't even handle a bunch of terrorists in Gaza. Don't rush with predictions))) But Israel, just like Zelensky, really wants to drag the US into their war. That's what I see. Hey, Americans, where do you want your guys to die now? The Chinese are avoiding the participation of their soldiers in any conflicts. Which of you will be the first to get involved in a real war? t.me/boris_rozhin/168619 |
smithsco | 14 Jun 2025 9:04 p.m. PST |
There is a world of difference between fighting against a guerilla force in an urban area and fighting a near peer war using aircraft and missiles. Israel can do everything except destroy the one enrichment plant buried deep. At some point Trump will have to step up and order it destroyed |
Cuprum2 | 14 Jun 2025 9:24 p.m. PST |
One of the biggest problems in politics, in my opinion, is believing your own propaganda… Then you become detached from reality and extremely vulnerable. And if everything doesn't go according to plan? Do you have a good option in reserve for how to get out of a failed plan for victory and smooth out your own defeat? For some reason, it seems to me that in the West they haven't thought about such things for a long time. So far, Iran's retaliatory strike has been more than worthy, although it is being glossed over in the West. t.me/boris_rozhin/168647 By the way, today an Iranian missile hit an Israeli nuclear facility, the Weizmann Institute. There is a fire in the building, and some of the institute's employees are trapped in the burning building. After all, it is legal to attack nuclear scientists? And so, smoothly and imperceptibly, we are entering a nuclear apocalypse… smithsco, have you ever heard of Iran's "rocket cities"? If Israel, with its overwhelming technical superiority, couldn't do anything about the Hamas catacombs, what can it do about them? link Legion4, now that we know that any point on the world map can be attacked at any time by drones that can be anywhere, are you sure that such Iranian drones won't launch a surprise attack on the US? The world has changed. There are no safe places anymore. link |
ochoin  | 14 Jun 2025 10:42 p.m. PST |
"One of the biggest problems in politics, in my opinion, is believing your own propaganda… Then you become detached from reality and extremely vulnerable. And if everything doesn't go according to plan? Do you have a good option in reserve for how to get out of a failed plan for victory and smooth out your own defeat?" I'm assuming you're talking about Russia invading the Ukraine? But back to the Israel situation. " At some point Trump will have to step up and order it destroyed" - there's an item of Mexican cuisine that suggests probably not. Fajita? |
Cuprum2 | 14 Jun 2025 11:12 p.m. PST |
And about the invasion of Ukraine too. An epic failure of the Russians in assessing their own capabilities. And an epic failure of the West – in assessing their own))) Everyone expected the war to be quick… But it looks like it's just beginning. |
Cuprum2 | 14 Jun 2025 11:28 p.m. PST |
The location of the Iranian missile's landing at Israel's Weizmann Institute for Nuclear Research: t.me/CyberspecNews/83703 Iranian missiles attack Israeli air defenses: t.me/CyberspecNews/83705 For some reason, it seems to me that the Israelis now really regret the "Patriot" they sent to Zelensky. What's going on with air defense in Europe now? Is it sufficient? Does anyone else think that the best way to be political is to ignore other people's opinions? |