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Dan in Vermont05 May 2025 12:04 p.m. PST

Hi folks: Does anybody have details on the number and type of each of the following used by the Jagdpanzer Abteilung of 12th SS at Lausdell, Rocherath, Krinkelt, Butgenbach of
-Jagdpanzer IV L/48 gun
-Jagdpanzer IV L/70 gun
-Jagdpanther 88 mm gun

Did that Abteilung use any Sturmgescheutze?? thx, Dan

Martin Rapier05 May 2025 11:25 p.m. PST

AFAIK they had a company of Jagdpanthers and the rest were Panzer IV/70s. The 75L48 Jagdpanzer IV was a stopgap and they had largely disappeared by October 1944.

I did have a detailed OB somewhere, but naturally I can't find it right now.

Dan in Vermont06 May 2025 7:14 a.m. PST

Thanks, Martin. Yes, in Zaloga's book, Smashing Hitler's Panzers, he refers to the JgPz IV with L/70 and of course the famous newsreel footage shows a JgpzIv with the L/70 as part of 1st SS Panzer. Somewhere else I saw a reference to JgPz IV with the L/48….so that's why I figured I would pose the question.

Martin Rapier06 May 2025 8:47 a.m. PST

Detailed OB I fo on Jagdpanthers batttalions link

Heavy Jagdpanzer battalion 560 was attached to 12SS for the Ardennes offensive. As the link notes it's "Stug" companies were equipped with Jagdpanzer IV/70s.

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