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warren bruhn15 Apr 2025 8:30 p.m. PST

Has anyone here bought any of the new Ark Royal line of metal 1:4800 scale ship models from the League of Augsburg? If I were starting a collection for WW1, these would be very tempting. Only British and German navies so far, but very extensive line of those.

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League of Augsburg is working on WW2 as well. They have their own rules too.

BillyNM Supporting Member of TMP15 Apr 2025 10:54 p.m. PST

Do they come with the masts as shown in the photos at the link? Or are these separate parts that come with the kit, or do they have to be supplied by yourself? If the latter they shouldn't really be in the commercial advertising without a clear notice of the fact.

Decebalus16 Apr 2025 3:04 a.m. PST

More expansive than Navwars 1/3000 line of models. And so small, that they need big bases. I am not convinced.

Prince Alberts Revenge16 Apr 2025 3:30 a.m. PST

I saw them in person when I was buying some of the late 17th century ships offered by LoA and they looked absolutely stunning.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP16 Apr 2025 7:33 a.m. PST

Very nice looking vessels. If I didn't already have all the major and half of the minor ships from Jutland in 1/2400 I'd be all in.

warren bruhn16 Apr 2025 8:38 a.m. PST

Billy NM, I don't believe the masts come in the packs. There are photos here and there among the individual packs that show the models in the bare metal. So, no false advertisement there. And I think League of Augsburg may have videos or articles regarding making masts and bases.

Decebalus, during March there was a special offer of all the British and German ships, essentially a Jutland plus, for £325.00 GBP, as best I recall, with free shipping even to the USA. That was more than the 1:3000 scale Jutland deals from Navwar. And I looked at Davco too.

Shagnasty, I'm in the same little metal and resin and plastic boats as you. Already have the North and Baltic Seas covered in 1:2400 scale. I have too many other miniatures that need to be painted for me to buy 1:4800 as well. But for anyone who is starting a collection, this 1:4800 scale might be appealing.

Personal logo David Manley Supporting Member of TMP16 Apr 2025 9:51 a.m. PST

These are lovely models – not for me as I already have just about everything I need for 1870s through to 1990 in 1/3000. But if I was coming into the naval side of the hobby for the first time these would be high on, or probably top of my list. I looked at 1/6000 and felt they were too small, 1/4800 is< i think, an excellent scale

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian16 Apr 2025 11:43 a.m. PST

I have them and am quite pleased. For me it is the perfect scale to have ranges look plausible on a 4'x6' table.

Personal logo Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP17 Apr 2025 8:30 a.m. PST

If these had existed in the 1990s I might have purchased them instead of 1/6000 fleets, but it would have been a hard decision. The 1/6000 Figurehead line was beyond complete – every warship used in WWI, plus hypothetical BBs and BCs and CVs that never launched (and some which never left the drawing board). I have them all.

The painting techniques look about the same, and probably about the same difficulty. On tiny ships, most of the work is done by drybrushing. A little bit of picking out details in contrasting colors is required – "scale black" (dark gray) for stack tops, pitch black for the stack holes, a lighter gray to pick out the main gun barrels that drybrushing didn't quite get, colored turret tops or stack stripes, maybe a light gray or off-white for the boats, etc.

The hardest part is painting the horizontal deck a contrasting deck color. It goes something like this:
1) Paint (or spray) entire ship overall darker gray
2) Paint deck tan
3) Fix superstructure and turrets where deck tan got onto vertical surfaces
4) Fix deck where base gray from fixes on superstructure and turrets got onto deck
5) Fix superstructure and turrets where deck tan got onto vertical surfaces
6) Fix deck where base gray from fixes on superstructure and turrets got onto deck
7) Fix superstructure and turrets where deck tan got onto vertical surfaces
8) Fix deck where base gray from fixes on superstructure and turrets got onto deck
9) Fix superstructure and turrets where deck tan got onto vertical surfaces
10) Fix deck where base gray from fixes on superstructure and turrets got onto deck
11) AAAAAAAAAGH!

After that, the entire ship can be drybrushed lighter grays in stages, carefully brushing only up and down to hit only vertical surfaces and avoid the deck. If all goes well, the deck stays tan and doesn't need to be fixed again.

I see the LoA 1/4800 ships have anchors and anchor chains, and Barry painted them. That looks really hard to do, but it looks nice if you can accomplish it.

I never tried painting anything smaller than 1/2400 with a camo pattern, like WWII ships. I would have thought it impossible until KniazSuvorov showed it can be done well

Elenderil17 Apr 2025 2:50 p.m. PST

Do we know if Russo-Japanese war models are planned as a near future release?

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