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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian02 Apr 2025 9:39 p.m. PST

You were asked – TMP link

Both Bolt Action and Age of Sigmar have announced new editions. How does the news affect your hobby?

49% said "I don't play games like these"
12% said "Business as usual"
6% said "I keep playing with the older edition of the game"

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP03 Apr 2025 3:12 a.m. PST

And thus, by impication, only 18% of TMP plays either of two of the most widely-publicized and frequently mentioned current rules sets. We're a very diffuse hobby.

But I'd still like to know what was meant by "games like these."

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP03 Apr 2025 4:13 a.m. PST

18% of respondants to the poll (<100 votes) selected one of the choices that indicates that they play.

<w>two of the most widely-publicized and frequently mentioned current rules sets

Data?

what was meant by "games like these."

There were only a few defintions offered. I liked this one:

edition-prone rules by people who sell miniatures

From what I know about the games, it's the only commonality, other than obvious things like using dice and miniatures, and playing on a table.

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP03 Apr 2025 9:36 a.m. PST

edition-prone rules by people who sell miniatures


No particular commonality on that point. GW does crank out new editions and change figure requirements and/or significant scale creep with each edition. Bolt Action does not link figure sales to the rules, nor even require the use of their figures in tournaments they sponsor.

1st edition of Bolt Action 2012.

2nd edition 2016. 4 years is a reasonable amount of time to clean up problems that will inevitably appear when even a well-playtested game goes on market and racks up an enormous number of plays and feedback. The changes were welcomed by active players. New figure purchase requirement for gamers upgrading the rules =0.

3rd edition 2024. 8 years is a reasonable amount of time to further polish up a popular set of rules. The changes were welcomed by active players. New figure purchase requirement for gamers upgrading the rules =0.

The only real commonality I can interpret from the voting answer is "We don't like popular games around these parts".

But actually, I can't see any reason why the two games were linked together in the question to start with.

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP03 Apr 2025 12:22 p.m. PST

Also for reference, Peter Pig has recently released a new edition of PBI, and a third edition of AK47 is in the works.

Like Warlords Games, they also sell miniatures that you can choose to use for these games, or use whatever the heck you like.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Apr 2025 3:45 a.m. PST

New figure purchase requirement for people who buy a new version of AOS when it comes out =0.

But the statement doesn't say manufacturers who "force people to buy minis" because that isn't a thing. It says mini manufacturers who also produce rules.

Also, my understanding is Warlord tried to enforce miniature standards on their sponsored events and failed.

Three editions is two more than my commercial rules have had in the same period. It's a subjective statement. I agree with robertpiepinbrik's assessment. I have seen people (colorfully)) arguing over versioning at Bolt Action tourneys and non-tourney games at cons. Well, I heard them from the next table over (which I asked not to have again).

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