"A thought AOS and WFB" Topic

So..,

AOS came out 2015.

Many avoided it like the plague, jumping to KOW, sticking with the final WFB edition, or what have you.

Now 20 years later the kids that were into it are grown up. No doubt realising their mistakes.

Interesting that WFB is back with TOW.

Will we see a wind down of AOSick of this?

Just glimpsed an article saying beastman are banished from AOS, and bone spitters/Orcs and goblins??

So that's two more lots of disgruntled customers to jump somewhere, luckily TOW can accommodate.

Obviously they are trying to twist AOS into something else, but what?

It's already some bizarre mash up of WFB, 40k,MTG and computer games. Aka the floor of a nightclub toilet at 8 in the morning.

Most of the figures looking like cacti is not helping it any either.

If you want space marines, you'd play 40k. If you want reagal humans, you'd play TOW.

Looks like Storm Cast Eternally Long Names may be in trouble.

AoS is "squad based fantasy" and in many ways better than 40K as far as rules

It wants to go beyond the Generic Tolkien aesthetic. It's a bit like Saga (Age of Fantasy) with 10ish man units running around

I'm not so sure.

WFB, TOW? Can be played with 10 man units running around.

In fact you used to be able to have less figures in a unit than that.

If they are skirmish units, well there you go.

So that's not it.

"beyond the Generic Tolkien aesthetic"

Orcs, dwarves, elves, so on, AOS still has it. They would have to go GOT or something to get away from it and even then…

Purposely moving AOS players back over to Warhammer is a telling move.

But of what?

If savage orcs arnt popular, ok.

But dropping beastmen from AOS, while retaining some, and having them released for TOW?

Bizarre.

Some of the AOS figures show some actual imagination – The Nighthaunts in particular. Really like their look and the energy of the poses.

WFB, TOW?

That's Rank & Flank so more in the massed combat area. Not the same.

If you were a beast man player and into AoS, you wouldn't be moving to a whole new game paradigm. You will sell it, shelve it, use Legacy rules.

Actually, as you would be buying new books this year anyway, you'd likely just buy the ones supporting your army into the future, not the ones killing it off.

Nighthaunts are just undead. The floating designs are cool, but like everyone with a foot on a rock, get a bit boring.

Those bone armour guys were good, thanks Ridley, but still seemed just AOS Tomb kings.

AOS is, and always will be, just a poor clone of Warhammer/40k.

I feel it's an embarrassment to the company, which they may be realising, so are trying to fix.

Good luck.

Best to just give Warhammer back it's armies and make a few new ones for 40k.

Bone armoured aliens, some new imperial armoured chaps, what have to.

Probably best to retire a bunch too, flying sharks and such.

Could be done.

After all TOW community is going to want skaven, lizardmen and such back at some point.

How glad I am both for my sanity and my wallet, that I have no idea what this is all about!
The GW Hobby is a very complex matter

Of course theres always the alternative of just doing whatever you want..

With the huge amount of choice in rules and figures it is somewhat amazing that one company has cornered the SF/F market so effectively. It makes no sense to me but for a lot of people it is exactly what they want. 🙄

Most of the current stuff has spawned from GW, in one way or another.

Either technologically, personnel, style, business structure, so on.

GW is mostly rubbish, these days at least, TOW has it hanging on by its fingernails as far as I'm concerned.

Paints and LOTR being exceptions.