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Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP14 Feb 2025 3:24 a.m. PST

I've just been listening to a news report from a high-level military expert who says that the electronic launch system doesn't work on the USS Gerald Ford, and that future carriers will use steam and hydraulic systems.

But I've also seen reports that in 2024 there were 10,396 sorties flown from the Gerald Ford.

Were these all helicopters?

Genuine question – it seems confusing, if I wanted to do a modern carrier group game how should I treat this aircraft carrier?

Personal logo Saber6 Supporting Member of TMP Fezian14 Feb 2025 6:11 a.m. PST

F35 can VTOL IIRC

could also mean it does not work as well as the older systems

Personal logo David Manley Supporting Member of TMP14 Feb 2025 7:08 a.m. PST

Maybe they mean it works (GF can clearly launch and recover FW aircraft), but isn't as good as hoped?

That said I've not personally seen or heard anything bad about the cats so far

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP14 Feb 2025 7:19 a.m. PST

@Saber6 : My understanding was that USS Gerald Ford deployed with Carrier Air Wing Eight which has F/A-18Es as its strike force.

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian14 Feb 2025 8:36 a.m. PST

The next Ford class in line, IIRC Enterprise, is certainly being built with EMALS as is the Chinese first true big deck carrier.

It is a technology that both the navies are adopting but some teething issues are certain to arise. Steam catapults weren't very good when they first were deployed.

Personal logo aegiscg47 Supporting Member of TMP14 Feb 2025 10:04 a.m. PST

So, the catapults and arresting gear (which are electromagnetic) do work…from time to time. The article I saw said that for the arresting gear there should be 16,500 cycles between breakdowns, but currently it's averaging 450 cycles between breakdowns. Also, the jet blast deflectors have had issues as well as a host of electrical problems. This means that the Ford can launch and retrieve aircraft, but not as efficiently as it should be.

Also, the VTOL version of the F-35 is only for the Marines and are used on assault ships. The Navy version uses the standard catapults.

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