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Starfury Rider06 Feb 2025 11:06 a.m. PST

There are a number of contemporary, and therefore untranslated, documents on germandocsinrussia.com from the Artillery School.

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There was a forward observation detachment as part of the HQ of each firing Battery on the relevant German that I've seen.

Gary (don't know why this went to the top of the thread?)

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP06 Feb 2025 3:51 p.m. PST

Glad you enjoyed it boys…

Armand

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP07 Feb 2025 12:53 a.m. PST

… A COMPARISON

Of possible interest?

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Armand

UshCha07 Feb 2025 1:00 a.m. PST

Tango01 Thanks a great read!

Starfury Rider07 Feb 2025 1:54 a.m. PST

Every time this gets posted, an angel gets its wings…

Artilleryman07 Feb 2025 5:17 a.m. PST

Lots of information about the US Army but not much about the Germans. I am still looking for a good account of how the Germans observed and adjusted artillery fire. In some ways, it is these techniques that make artillery effective not just the guns themselves. Witness the British system with its FOOs and BCs imbedded with the infantry and armour and the flexible C&C system which could bring a corps' worth of guns on top of a single target in minutes few.

Starfury Rider07 Feb 2025 8:36 a.m. PST

I didn't enjoy, I haven't enjoyed once in the many times it's been posted.

The US Field Artillery built an excellent record in Northwest Europe and deserves a better article than the flawed one produced in the link.

If you are going to do a comparison of two combatants, while excluding all others, at least do a proper comparison. If you're going to shoehorn Tank Destroyers and 4.2-inch mortars into a piece on US Field Artillery, make some acknowledgement of the fact that your only other subject, German Field Artillery, was heavily supplemented by Assault Gun units, 12-cm mortars, Nebelwerfers and everything from 2-cm to 8.8-cm Flak pieces being used in the ground fire role.

If you are going to exclude all other artilleries, don't repeat the same myths about 'only the US could…' without at least offering some reason why no one else could, even if you're wrong. That is complicated if you've already decided no one else existed of course.

And sourcing corroborating evidence makes it more than an anecdote.

German Artillery was not swept from the board by 7th June 1944, as testified to by reports from Allied Infantrymen throughout the campaigns in Northwest Europe and Italy.

See it again in around a year or so I suppose.

Gary

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP07 Feb 2025 10:18 a.m. PST

Great points – in contrast to for example the Russian system which could put massive volumes of heavy fire into pre-arranged positions but struggled to adjust targets in a tactically relevant time frame

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP07 Feb 2025 3:47 p.m. PST

Thanks


Armand

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