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The Tyn Man04 Feb 2025 11:51 a.m. PST

I can't find any info on this. Did the buglers in Russian Cav Regts have different coloured horses than the rest of the troops? ie: Did they have greys like the French?

Cheers
Dean

14Bore04 Feb 2025 12:26 p.m. PST

Everything I read about the Russians in Napoleonic was is they had horses to burn up. But no idea it color coordination for buglers.

Prince of Essling04 Feb 2025 1:32 p.m. PST

Parkhaev's drawings of the 1812 army show the trumpeters mounted on white/grey coloured horses and a kettle drummer mounted on a black horse.

STAFF TRUMPETER OF THE YEKATERINOSLAV AND TRUMPETER OF THE ORDER CUIRASSIER REGIMENTS

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STAFF TRUMPETER OF THE MOSCOW DRAGOON REGIMENT
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STAFF TRUMPETER OF THE MARIUPOL HUSSAR REGIMENT
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TRUMPETER OF THE LITHUANIAN LANCER REGIMENT
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KETTLEDRUM PLAYER OF THE CAVALRY GUARDS REGIMENT
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The copy in my possession shows a much darker horse – hence my comment about black.

Only information I could find in Viskovatov (from Mark Conrad's translations):
30 April 1802
Cuirassier horse— no taller than 5 feet 3 inches, and not shorter than 5 feet. There is no prescribed colour, but the cost, less delivery fee, is authorized to be 100 roubles.
16 December 1815— In Cuirassier regiments, trumpeters are to have grey horses, and other ranks — dark colours.

30 April 1802
Dragoon horse— no taller than 5 feet, and not shorter than 4 feet 10 inches. There are no prescribed colours, but the cost, less delivery fee, is authorized to be 50 roubles.
16 December 1815— In Dragoon regiments, trumpeters are to have grey horses, and other ranks — dark colours.

30 April 1802
Hussar horse— no higher than 5 feet tall, and no less than 4 feet 8 inches, of no particular prescribed colours, but authorized to cost 40 roubles not including delivery.

Guard Cuirassiers
16 December 1815 – It was directed that trumpeters in these regiments have gray horses, and other ranks—dark colours.

Guard dragoons
16 December 1815 – Trumpeters were ordered to have grey horses, and other ranks — dark colours.

Guards Horse-Jäger Regiment
13 March 1816 – When assigning remounts to the L.-Gds. Horse-Jäger Regiment, it was ordered that any colour horse be selected except light bays [solovye], Isabellas [izabely, i.e. palominos], spotted [chubarye], sorrel or light-brown Tatar breeds [kaurye], light chestnuts tending to yellow [savrasye], and pigeon grays or ash colors [golubye].

Guard Hussars
13 March 1816 – When assigning remounts to the L.-Gds. Hussar Regiment, it was ordered that any colour horse be selected except light bay, Isabellas [i.e. palominos], spotted, sorrel or light-brown Tatar breeds, light chestnuts tending to yellow, and pigeon grays or ash colours.
Guard Lancers
16 December 1816 – Trumpeters were ordered to have gray horses, and other ranks to have dark colours.
13 March 1816 – When assigning remounts to the L.-Gds. Lancer Regiment, it was ordered that any colour horse be selected except light bays, Isabellas, spotted, sorrel or light-brown Tatar breeds, light chestnuts tending to yellow, and pigeon grays or ash colours.

The Tyn Man04 Feb 2025 5:53 p.m. PST

Thanks for the info and prints. Looking at the dates, I wonder if the Russians were coping the French after the wars, much like the British adopting the French style shako.

Thanks again,
Dean

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