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Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2025 4:11 a.m. PST

A vastly readable history of the Comanche nation, and its rise.
There is a great emphasis on the goings on ca 1758, so it's definitely "in our SYW period".
I'm at the point now where the Lipan Apache very skillfully engineer war between the Comanche and Spanish.
You just stumble over gaming scenario ideas.

The "main character" is Quannah Parker, the last "great Comanche Chief", who had Teddy Roosevelt as a house guest.
S C Gwynne traces Comanche history as leading up to him. His mother was Cynthia Ann Parker, on whom the Natalie Wood character in The Searchers is partially based. One of the greatest John Wayne John Ford movies.

I can't recommend this book highly enough!

YogiBearMinis04 Feb 2025 4:27 a.m. PST

I was just talking to a random guy this week who had read it and was highly endorsing it as informative as well as good read.

bargainbindm Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2025 5:57 a.m. PST

Aside from wargaming potential, just a great read. I highly recommend it.

Wackmole904 Feb 2025 6:27 a.m. PST

A great book! I would also suggest The Contested Plains: Indians, Goldseekers, and the Rush to Colorado by Elliott West. It explains the rises, Golden age, and Fall of the Nomadic Plains Culture.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2025 7:40 a.m. PST

I'll have to check it out. Thanks.

Choctaw04 Feb 2025 8:03 a.m. PST

I grew up in the Comancheria area of northwest Texas and still have a ranch in that area. It took men and women with enormous internal fortitude to move well beyond the frontier and settle there. The WWII folks may well have been the Greatest Generation, but the people who settled the American West were certainly in a category all their own.

The book is incredibly good. I hope the television series will match it.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2025 8:15 a.m. PST

Another endorsement for this great book. I hadn't heard they were goings to make a TV series of it. Very cool.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2025 9:09 a.m. PST

Taylor Sheridan, Yellowstone etc, has acquired the rights to the book.
Read into that what you will.
Any other producer, I would think it a "simple" biography of Quannah Parker, but who knows?

Choctaw04 Feb 2025 9:28 a.m. PST

I would love to see a movie covering Quannah's later life. When you can count Charles Goodnight, Theodore Roosevelt and Burk Burnett as your friends you are doing something right.

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian04 Feb 2025 10:54 a.m. PST

Great book! The Comanche at times pushed the frontier back eastwards.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2025 11:45 a.m. PST

Gringo40s have a fine range of Spanish Cuera dragoons, mounted and dismounted.
They also do Apaches, 1840 type Texas Rangers, and brilliant Comanche.
The only caveat, which I happily ignore, is that they are rather large 28mm figures. I would even call them 30mm.
That doesn't bother me at all.

Falcata make a superb range of Spanish Cuera dragoons, with both the padded leather armor and officers wearing the white "tabard" type armor. There are many poses, and some can be delicate.

Dayton Painting Consortium have the old RSM range, with Cuera that I've never seen. I do have their Spanish SYW militia. You will have to email and ask for a "single figure" price lust to see their Cuera listed, as "Spanish Dragoons".

Old Glory does 1840 Texas Rangers in their MAW range.

After that, it all depends on how "generic" you want to make your Apache and Comanche figures. Frankly, I can't see any differences between various superb ranges.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2025 12:02 p.m. PST

Just looking on Amazon. Is it really only 40 pages long?

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2025 12:16 p.m. PST

No, it is 371 pages.

Jim

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2025 1:00 p.m. PST

Weird, there are at least two books with the same title!

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2025 1:27 p.m. PST

"Weird, there are at least two books with the same title!"

There are at least four titled Glory Road, nnascati--Heinlein, Catton, Hopkins and Denton. You can't copyright a title.

But I'll second the OFM's recommendation. No desire to build Plains Wars armies myself, but it's an informative and pleasant read.

Personal logo Old Contemptible Supporting Member of TMP05 Feb 2025 9:27 a.m. PST

Colonel Ranald "Bad Hand" Mackenzie.

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Personal logo Old Contemptible Supporting Member of TMP05 Feb 2025 9:30 a.m. PST

Quanah Parker's Headdress is part of the permanent collection at the Panhandle Plains Historical museum in Canyon, Texas.

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