"Well, I finally did it ... Terminator" Topic

Watched The Terminator to Soldier followed by demon with a glass hand.

Spot on.

Some interesting points:

You can see where (presumably) Cameron is bored with the slow bits, so has people run around instead.

Some really funny line ups (apart from everything else). Probably on purpose. Struggling to remember them now… Oh, yes. When you line up random scenes, al la the algorithm, "there is nothing wrong with your television, do not try to adjust the picture…" I'll let you guess that bit in the movie. And the Twilight zone wavy lines appear in the film, the bunker kiddy fence, the guns under the mattress frame, lightning I think too.

Soldier ends with the arm fixing bit. Demon starts with the next scene, watching Kyle's interagation.

The outer limits titles seem to play their part, however, demon runs over about the same, so I may try it at some point, skipping the titles.

Lots of eyes, red eyes, black eyes.

Ellison was certainly onto something, although he seemed to think it more based on soldier, despite it playing to both chronologically.

Then again all films seem to match others, so it's certainly not a unique situation. Or is it? Following two shows stuck together seems odd. I guess Ellison used the same algorithm for them to begin with.

The research continues…

Sorry I have no idea what you are talking about.

I'll clarify.

When James Cameron was making the terminator film, he gave an interview in which he said he just ripped off a couple of Harlan Ellison outer limits episodes.

People though it like soldier(?) and demon with a glass hand.

Word of this got to Ellison who tried to get tickets to preview screenings, but was denied by Orion pictures.

Ellison snuck in as, I think it was lenard Maltons, assistant.

Upon seeing the film Ellison thought it more like soldier than demon with a glass hand.

He sued Orion. Since then all copies have "acknowledging the works of Harlan Ellison", plus he got some money.

James Cameron always denied that he ripped off the episodes.

Upon viewing the terminator on one tv, and soldier followed by demon with a glass hand on an adjacent tv, they are perfectly in sink.

Although I suspect they are all just based on another text I am yet to discover, possibly including the resurrection of Christ? Hamlet also springs to mind. But it's something I'll have to get to.

As far as more similarities.

At times outer limits mentioned ideal soldier, born to kill, or such like, and Arny is on the screen as the terminator.

So much is the same but opposite.

The bad terminator going into the good guys base and fighting them all where a woman is held captive. V, the good guy going into the bad guys base and fighting them where a woman is not held captive.

All that soldier stuff at the start is so similar to the terminator with the lasers and ruins.

When when quarlos(?) gets his helmet knocked off and has ear pains from the noise, after time traveling, lines up with Kyle suffering in pain after time traveling.

The good family has a cat in soldier. In the terminator it's a lizard. In demon it's…a computer hand?

Of course (spoiler) the guy in demon ends up being revealed as a robot. Hmm… sounds familiar.

Its also like the terminator/Kyle are going through the phone book looking for Sarah, like collecting the fingers in demon, looking for the truth. Both trying to find humanity.

Demon mentioned only 2 can come through the time mirror at once, just like the terminator having 2 come through.

Its endless.