"3d printing fragility" Topic

So, bamboo(?) Labs use the internet for printing?

Apparently you send your data to "the cloud", sounds safe!, And then it beams it back to your printer?!

Whadda Smeg?

Obviously (if I have that correct) this is their way of keeping people paying.

Do you need to pay a subscription for this service?

Why not just have it go from comp to printer? Apart from their profit?

H Man

Using "the cloud" is just a means of getting the files to your printer. You send it off into the air and your printer picks it up. If you've ever had a paper printer that you can send files to over wifi, same thing.

The other alternative (what I prefer) is to just load them on a USB drive, then put the USB drive into the printer. Any decent modern printer should have both a USB port and a touch screen to view your files.

I find 3d print resin very fragile. It is brittle. Not quite glassy, but when it does break it shatters more than tears like a traditional injection molded kit. There are "ABS plastic-like" resins, but to me they are still brittle.

3d print is good for filling gaps in lines when nothing else is available, for printing bits (ie I need a bicorne head right now) or for printing mass amounts.

A lot of people thinking 3d printing is cheaper. It is not at all unless the files are free, you do not value your time whatsoever (it is very time intensive) or both. Anyone buying a file and printing 1-10 of it is actually paying more than a retail kit factoring in supplies.

Also keep in mind everything on a printer depreciates. The screen protectors, the vat films, even the LCD screen that shines a light up to cook the resin. Even the body for anything plastic, as the resin eats it. I was surprised how quickly I was spending another $100 USD on screen film and protector, after buying it new.

Not to discourage, just honest truth because people tend to ignore this and say "it's free models"

"for printing mass amounts."

That depends on time. Its quicker to cast. Which can end up being cheaper.

"Using "the cloud" is just a means of getting the files to your printer. You send it off into the air and your printer picks it up. If you've ever had a paper printer that you can send files to over wifi, same thing."

No, it's been mentioned that it actually goes to bamboo labs, not just localised wifi.

The cloud is the internet, where people upload things to servers around the world for easy/cheap storage. Instead of having to provide the storage themselves.

In this case I think they mean it goes to bamboo labs servers (or third party ones they use, sounds better don't it) and the printers are then loaded/controlled/whatever from their servers.

I know this because Samcraft mentioned it in a video and said that he didn't think it a risk, as he doubted that bamboo labs would spend their time trawling through people's print files to steal their IP. This was in reference to him taking about the risks of sending your files to a printing service.

Tougher resins have very recently become available and the brittleness problem is much less than it was.

Robert

The 'risk' of sending files via a cloud server is that Bambu may have an agreement(s) with third-party vendors that process the STLs automatically and incorporate them into generative AI products.

Robert

You can configure Bambu printers to LAN only, no cloud required

I find 3D printed miniatures tougher than some injection-molded pieces. It depends on the resin and how much you cure it. Overcuring can make it brittle. Pay a little more for the good resin and get good exposure/curing times from someone who has put in the time to experiment with that exact resin. (If there are no good times for a resin don't buy that resin.)

And if you're afraid of the cloud I have bad news for you…

Even with all the supplies it is cheaper and more convenient to 3d print minis. I am reminded of this every time I go to a convention and see how much a box of figures goes for these days. Not only do I pay a fraction of the cost but if I only need several figures, it is essentially POD. IMO the detail on the figures far surpasses metal and even in some cases plastics like Perrys. As Andrew said the right type and quality of resin works for figures and is more flexible. I download the file, put it on a USB stick to print out. Most of files I have purchased have a backup on the seller's site, like My Mini Factory.

I just think it's cool.

My understanding is that Bambu has a MMF type service where you
Pick a model and print it: no downloading, slicing and fiddling with that stuff.

Now, if I could send "the cloud" my STL and avoid the fiddly bits I'm all for it

"I download the file, put it on a USB stick to print out."

Do you make your own toothpaste and toilet paper too?

Or just pay more for convenience like most people?

I think some people may be misunderstanding the topic.

Not physically fragile, security fragile.

"You can configure Bambu printers to LAN only, no cloud required"

Thanks.

So why upload to the cloud then??

Not physically fragile, security fragile.

Says the person posting on an insecure website.

What security? We are talking 3D prints, not tax returns

H Man, here's an overview of cloud vs. Lan functionality
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