"Canadian Scenario" Topic

His family took opportunities to enrich themselves. Kushner got a billion from the Saudis to save his failing business. Ivanka's merch patents in China. Everybody in both parties gets inside trading opportunities.

And I have seen reports that MTG took lots of money out of shares just before the current collapse. Insider trading ?

But not as bad as the Trump allies who raised millions to build a wall at the southern border, and spent it on a luxury mansion for the chief executive ! And Trump's pardoning one of the chief offenders after his conviction.

Dagwood any viable sources for your information?

As is currently happening, in his previous term, Leftwing groups and Democrats challenged everything to do with that wall in their pet leftwing jurisdictions. Holding up building constantly. The materials, paid for by we the taxpayers, sat and rusted. Then the "corrupt" Biden administration tried to sell it all at vastly discounted prices. Not giving a tinkers dam, the cost to the taxpayers.

The wall has been started again. The border entry is down over 90 plus percent. All done without all that Biden said he needed to shut it down.

"March's numbers — with 1,146 fewer crossings than in February — represent a dramatic drop compared to the monthly average of 155,000 during the Biden administration. Under former President Joe Biden, border agents frequently recorded over 7,000 border crossings per day."

There is no denying his success on the border.

OVI +10

The border being shut down in a matter of days. Demonstrated what can be done. With real leadership, etc.

Yes..agree. Here his judgement was right on.

But immigration reform may never happen under MAGA, and we need a new system. Immigrants are part of America's core character, vital to our economy, overall resilience and strength. Not just as scapegoats. We all came from somewhere.

MTG's stock activity can be found online. She certainly gives the appearance of someone who might have known what was coming based on her shifting to Treasury bills at the end of March. But she has already made millions in the market, now worth about 15 mil. She is far from the worst example.

No, she is far from the worst and both parties are guilty. Term limits are needed, but they will never vote them in.

I assume Trump is doing the same thing this term as last, no pay and what would be his pay is donated to charities.

Trump's golf expenses billed to taxpayers are said to be around 26 million to date, including the last term, when he spent around 25% of his time playing. A weekend stopover at his Turnberry course in Scotland cost around 1 mil. in 2018.

So far, in his first 77 days he has spent 21 days playing. While he has a, shall we say, unique way of playing and scoring and can probably finish a round in 3-4 hours, it still takes up most of a standard working day, including time to get to the course, dress, etc.

Since he owns the courses, he basically pays himself to play. This is the big difference between him and Eisenhower, who played as often as twice a week, but did make any money from it.

@tort

And HIS constant vacations on the beach!! OPPs, that wasn't him, was it? 😉

Tort, quickly list 10 positive things his administration has accomplished since the election.

I can, with no problem. 😉

Everyone is having kittens over the tariffs. "Mostly" the usual groups and individuals. They hate him anyway. A tiger can't change its stripes.

Obama got 8 years. Biden 4. I hated every day of it. But they got the time to see what their policies could achieve. I'd even add the 2nd Bush to that list.

I'm willing to give Trump that time. He has not made a move, that the Democrats and media have not been outraged about or dismissed almost immediately. Just like his first term, the usual lefties are in the streets. Burning cars and buildings, injuring people, advocating for terrorists and criminals and of course acting like nutters. The MSM stories are in the high 80's negative. Just like 2016 to 2020 and the 2024 election.

The difference this term? He does not seem to care what they say.

Also even since the tariffs, his latest poll is up. He never lied about what he was going to do. Why is the other side acting as if it's a big surprise?

If the anti-Trumpers are going to get outraged every day about something new… well they are going to have early heart attacks. 😵‍💫 😱😵

Tort, just saw this. He pretty much makes the point. Yes it's Turley 😱, but he's not wrong.

Subject: The American Jacobin: How Some on the Left have Found Release in an Age of Rage



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My only reason for posting the golf is that Trump has found ways to monetize the office. He gets no credit for donating
his salary.

I noticed Fox carried little news, certainly no headlines, on its website about the stock market last week. meant to give you kudos for posting from the foriegn news sources on the Houthi attacks the other day, I got busy. But I had not checked those kind of sources, only MSM, where anonymous comments were coming out of the Pentagon that the strikes were not getting much results. Who to believe? Not easy to figure out!

Its natural that Turley and Hanson would try to refocus the right on radical left activities, but the crazies are a long way from being the majority. Almost every poll shows Trump has lost support. Not a big deal yet. He did not lie about the tariffs, but he did about the risks. The global economy was doing pretty well, especially the US.

Like many things, we will have to wait and see. More critical to me is how much unilateral power can the POTUS gather to himself and maintain. Other presidents have been doing this, but the bar has now been raised beyond the norm.
What I heard this weekend especially was – no tariffs without Congress. We need Congress to return to relevance in any case.

Actually the tariffs and stock market are constant news on Fox channel since last week. Especially the shows up until night, but even they are talking. Of course the spin is more toward the positive, but that would be expected. But the doom and gloom figures are there too.

Current website

"Trump threatens to hit China with additional 50% tariffs if it doesn't meet demand by deadline
5 min read
Trump, Netanyahu to meet at White House as Israel seeks tariff relief
DOW WATCH: Live look at market's reaction to Trump tariffs
WATCH DEVELOPING COVERAGE ON FOX BUSINESS
Auto exec counters Dems, backs Trump on American-made goods"

Now MSNBC

: MSNBC News – Breaking News and News Today | Latest News


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CNN was better, but when I clicked on their stories, it went to stock market updates??

Welcome for the rest. Take care.

I want to see how China comes out related to all this. If they concede and make changes of any magnitude, this may all fall to the wayside.

If you need those 10, let me know. 😉

Oh look, the European Union now says it is willing to negotiate "Net Zero" tariffs with the United States.

BREAKING: EU offers 'zero -for-zero' tariffs to US, stands 'ready to negotiate'

On Monday, European Union leader Ursula von der Leyen has said that the European Union is ready to offer "zero-for-zero" tariffs in trade negotiations with the United States for industrial goods.

"We stand ready to negotiate with the United States. Indeed, we have offered zero-for-zero tariffs for industrial goods, as we have successfully done with many other trading partners, because Europe is always ready for a good deal," von der Leyen said on Monday.

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Oh look -- the recent stock market losses have been made back up, and more!

S&P 500 Soars $4 USD Trillion on EU's Zero Tariff Talks with US

Breaking News: S&P 500 Surges $4 USD Trillion on EU's Zero Tariff Proposal
In a significant development for global markets, the S&P 500 experienced a remarkable surge, gaining $4 USD trillion in value following the European Union's announcement regarding a proposal for "zero for zero" tariffs with the United States. This news, shared by prominent political commentator Benny Johnson, has sent ripples through the financial world, leading to widespread discussions about the potential implications for trade relations, economic growth, and market stability.

What Does "Zero for Zero" Tariffs Mean?
The term "zero for zero" tariffs refers to a trade agreement where both parties—the European Union and the United States in this case—would eliminate tariffs on goods traded between them. Such a proposal aims to foster stronger trade relations by reducing barriers for businesses and consumers, ultimately promoting economic growth.

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Yes SB I read the UK this morning as well. They are saying 50 countries so far are asking to talk. Israel is meeting with him as I write. Will anything be announced? Possibly not at this time, they may hold off purposely.

On the stocks. Well that is going to run up and down for a time. Or until the next "new crises" appears. 😉

Turley and Hanson would try to refocus the right on radical left activities, but the crazies are a long way from being the majority.

I listen to both of them on FOX. They are some of the best. 'nuff said …

Almost every poll shows Trump has lost support.

Not the news I saw today …

OVI +1

SBm +1

MSM, where anonymous comments were coming out of the Pentagon that the strikes were not getting much results. Who to believe? Not easy to figure out!

That is not what GEN Ret. Kean and other Ret. COLs, GENS, etc. have been saying on FOX and Newsmax. This air offensive has been going on for about 20 Days, every day.

Not the pinprick strikes of the last POTUS, well I should say the last POTUS's Admin, Staff, etc. who were in charge. As we see as more information is released, the last POTUS was an empty suit. He was not incompetent; he was totally mentally and physically impaired. Should not have been anywhere near the WH or DC. And so many people in the WH, DC and the media knew it. And said nothing…

So as far for the air campaign over Yemen. Things are getting blown up and bad guys dying. They are firing less missiles, etc. That seems to me to be a result of this new heavier, concentrated, strikes has something to do with it.

As long as they shoot missiles at anyone … We should continue to blow stuff up and kill people.

IIRC Rommel said something like, to paraphrase, "Without orders go out and find something to kill." … Today that should apply to the Houthis, Hamas, etc.

The American Invasions of Canada

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A new development! There's a serious secession referendum taking place now in Alberta and Saskatchewan, two provinces who feel much abused by the Liberal Party and without a voice in Parliament. This referendum may lead to nothing, and doesn't mean they would join the United States -- but, what happens if these two provinces vote to secede and form their own nation.

What does Canada do?

Let's call this new nation "Saskberta" and let's describe it in the style of the CIA World Fact book listings (thanks ChatGPT!):

Saskberta
Conventional long form: The Republic of Saskberta
Conventional short form: Saskberta
Formerly: Provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan (Canada)
Government type: Parliamentary federal republic
Capital: Edmonton

Geography
Location: Central North America; landlocked between British Columbia (west), Manitoba (east), Montana/North Dakota (south), and the remaining Canadian provinces (north).
Area: 1,213,055 sq km (approximately the combined area of Alberta and Saskatchewan)
Terrain: Prairie grasslands, boreal forests, and Rocky Mountain foothills
Climate: Continental; cold winters and warm summers with low humidity

Population
Population: 8.4 million (2025 est.)
Ethnic groups:

European descent (primarily English, Scottish, Ukrainian, German): 72%

Indigenous Peoples: 10%

South Asian: 7%

East and Southeast Asian: 6%

African and Caribbean: 3%

Other: 2%

Languages:

English (official)

French (recognized minority language)

Cree, Dene, and other Indigenous languages (regional use)

Religions:

Christianity: 61% (including Protestant and Roman Catholic)

No affiliation: 28%

Islam, Sikhism, Hinduism, Buddhism: 9%

Indigenous spiritual practices: 2%

Government
Chief of State: President (ceremonial)
Head of Government: Prime Minister
Legislature: Bicameral Federal Assembly (Senate and House of Prairies)
Independence: Voted by referendum in 2027; ratified in 2028
Legal system: Mixed common and civil law, derived from Canadian precedent

Economy
GDP (purchasing power parity): $583 USD billion (2025 est.)
GDP – real growth rate: 3.4% (2025 est.)
GDP per capita (PPP): $69,400 USD (2025 est.)
Currency: Saskbertan Dollar (SBD)

Primary Industries:

Energy:

Crude oil, natural gas, oil sands (Alberta)

Uranium mining (Saskatchewan – world's largest exporter)

Agriculture:

Wheat, barley, canola, lentils, beef cattle, and pork

Mining:

Potash (largest global reserves), coal, rare earth minerals

Forestry:

Timber and pulp products in northern boreal zones

Technology & Clean Energy:

Rapidly growing sectors in Calgary and Saskatoon

Major Export Partners:

United States: 62%

Japan: 10%

China: 9%

EU (primarily Germany and Netherlands): 7%

India: 5%

Major Imports:

Industrial machinery, electronics, vehicles, pharmaceuticals, and refined products
Trade Agreements:

North American Trade Accord (post-independence bilateral deal with U.S. and Canada)

Pacific Rim Partnership (PRP) observer status

Commonwealth Free Trade Memorandum (pending ratification)

Energy & Infrastructure
Electricity production: Primarily fossil fuels (coal, natural gas), with growing investments in wind and nuclear

Pipelines: Extensive network for oil and gas, including new southern and western export routes

Transport:

Highways: Trans-Prairie Corridor

Rail: Grain and resource freight to ports in BC and the U.S.

Airports: Edmonton International, Calgary International, Saskatoon John G. Diefenbaker

Military
Armed Forces: Saskbertan Defence Force (SDF)
Branches: Army, Air Command, Home Guard
Military expenditures: 1.5% of GDP (2025 est.)
Strategic role: Border security, resource protection, international peacekeeping (Commonwealth missions)

Saskberta – Inherited Military Assets
Military name: Saskbertan Defence Force (SDF)
Branches:

Saskbertan Army

Saskbertan Air Command

Saskbertan Home Guard (Reserve & Civil Defense Corps)

⚔️ Land Forces (Saskbertan Army)
Personnel Estimate: ~6,000 active; 12,000 reserves (initial transition period)
Main Bases Inherited:

CFB Wainwright (Alberta) – Combat training and mechanized infantry HQ

CFB Shilo (Saskatchewan) – Artillery and field maneuver operations

CFB Suffield – Largest land training facility; also houses DRDC and joint-use training grounds

Equipment Inherited:

~60 LAV 6.0 Infantry Fighting Vehicles (used in Mechanized Infantry units)

~20 Coyote Reconnaissance Vehicles

~40 TAPV (Tactical Armoured Patrol Vehicles)

~25 M777 155mm howitzers (artillery support)

Assorted utility vehicles (Logistics Trucks, G-Wagens, Husky recovery vehicles)

Limited stock of Leopard 2 tanks used for training (on loan from Canadian Army — status post-independence likely requires repurchase or repatriation)

Weapons & Systems:

C7A2 rifles (standard infantry weapon), C6 GPMG, Carl Gustaf recoilless rifles

Communications and battlefield management systems from Canadian Forces inventory

✈️ Air Forces (Saskbertan Air Command)
Main Bases:

CFB Cold Lake (Alberta) – Premier air base; formerly home to RCAF tactical fighters

CFB Moose Jaw (Saskatchewan) – Pilot training base (NATO Flying Training in Canada program)

Aircraft Inherited:

16x CF-18 Hornets (condition varies; airframes aging and require upgrade or replacement)

24x CT-155 Hawk Trainers (British Aerospace; used for pilot training)

12x CT-156 Harvard II (turboprop trainers)

Assorted transport and utility aircraft (e.g., Twin Otter, King Air, CH-146 Griffon helicopters)

Radar and Defense Systems:

Cold Lake early-warning radar and satellite link systems

NORAD ties likely severed unless special treaty signed post-independence

Strategic Note:

Air Command is strongest of all branches due to Cold Lake's infrastructure. Saskberta could either refurbish CF-18s or pursue purchases from nations like Sweden (Gripen) or South Korea (FA-50).

🛡️ Home Guard & Strategic Infrastructure
Role:

Reserve infantry, civil emergency response, domestic security, anti-terror

Border control, including shared U.S. border along Montana and North Dakota

Assets:

Border sensors, regional depots, armories in Regina, Saskatoon, Calgary, and Edmonton

National Emergency Command Center co-located with former RCMP regional HQ

Inherited elements of the RCMP division likely reorganized as a federal police service

Special Capabilities:

Inherited some CBW (chemical, biological, warfare) training facilities at Suffield

Cold Weather Training and Arctic mobilization doctrine retained

🧭 Strategic Outlook
Defense Industry:

Domestic vehicle maintenance, parts manufacturing (Saskatoon and Edmonton industrial zones)

Existing Canadian defense contracts now terminated; future reliance on domestic firms or new foreign suppliers

Doctrine:

Defense of territory, deterrence against cross-border threats, resource protection

Peacekeeping contributions to Commonwealth and UN missions (limited capacity)

Transition from NATO participation to bilateral defense pacts likely

Military Budget (initial):

Estimated at $6.8 USD billion SBD/year (~1.5% GDP)

Transnational Issues
Disputes:

Ongoing negotiations with Canada over resource revenue-sharing and pension liabilities

Indigenous sovereignty issues regarding land and self-governance

Tensions over access to tidewater ports in British Columbia

In response to the formation of Saskberta, the US president issues a series of tweets:

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BREAKING: The great people of Saskberta have declared INDEPENDENCE from the overbearing boot of Ottawa. They said NO MORE to taxes, woke politics, and phony climate mandates. I say: GOOD FOR THEM! 🇺🇸🇵🇳🔥 #FreePrairies #BoldFrontier

2/🌾
Just got off the phone with PM Jensen of Saskberta — a tough negotiator, but a good man who LOVES his country. They've got energy, they've got wheat, and they've got courage. We're going to talk about a beautiful new TRADE DEAL — best one ever. Stand by. 💼💥

3/💥
Trudeau and his globalist friends in Davos tried to crush the West. But the people of the plains — farmers, rig workers, ranchers — said HELL NO. It's like the Wild West again — and I love it. Teddy Roosevelt would be proud! 🐎🇺🇸

4/🚧
Some say we shouldn't interfere. I say — when freedom rings, America listens. The northern border is changing, and it's time we build a new relationship — one based on STRENGTH, not submission. #SaskbertaStrong

5/📜
To Ottawa: don't even THINK about sending in tanks. That's not how free people solve disputes. Respect the will of the people, or face consequences. Democracy doesn't stop at your borders. ⚖️🌎

6/🏛️
This administration supports independent nations that stand for liberty, energy independence, and fair trade. Saskberta could be a shining example of what happens when you throw off the chains of socialist mismanagement. Stay tuned. 🔥🌾🛢️

7/🧵(last)
To the people of Saskberta — we salute you. The spirit of the frontier lives again. From Montana to Medicine Hat, let's build something YUGE. The world is watching. 🇺🇸🇵🇳 #NewFrontier #AmericaFirst #SaskbertaRising

What does Carney and the Liberal Party government do? Would this action precipitate a No Confidence vote and topple his government? Would he file suit, would he take direct action as US diplomatic envoys start trade talks with Saskberta?

I saw that this morning. Clipped this out. She Sounds very Trumpian.

Subject: YEGWAVE on X: "Alberta Premier Danielle Smith has strong words for Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney and the Liberal Party. t.co/9UgssCmbGk / X


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So now almost 1/3rd of people in British Columbia are expressing interest in independence from Ottawa…rumblings in other provinces against the Liberal Party's continued policies. Is this what Canada could look like in the next few years?

Where did all the folks talking about OrangeManBad's "invasion of Canada" stuff? Now that Canada is the closest its ever been to fragmenting, you'd think the wargaming possibilities go through the roof!

The possibility of a fragmented Canada is the same as a fragmented USA…

Armand

The possibility of a fragmented Canada is the same as a fragmented USA…

Armand

Are you unaware of the secession vote happening in Alberta? That Sasketchenwan is following suit, and 1/3rd of British Columbians also favor this?

The primary reason is the Liberal Party has essentially vowed to DESTROY the economies of Alberta and Saskatchewan with insanely strict "Net Zero" green policies. The Liberal Government under Carney has also issued stronger "ESG guidance" rules on companies -- comply or die. Comply or have your access to capital restricted.

Does it mean it will happen? No, this could be resolved by the Liberal Party changing its policies to meet the needs of Canadian provinces, and reducing its drive to centralize (fat chance of that!) -- but much more likely than the US.

If Alberta and Saskatchewan vote for Full Autonomy, it's likely that British Columbia will grab more autonomy for its policies to reduce reliance on the Central government, but still remain in Canada, likely Manitoba does the same thing.

If that happens, the autonomy movements in the provinces with a large First People's population might take off, and the Atlantic Provinces who always feel snubbed may follow suit.

Frankly … in the long run I don't think Canada will break up. They don't have it that bad …

Probably not. Just as we will not see areas in the US pull away from their home states and join other states. Oregon for instance. Too much involved and too many lawsuits holding up processes.

But division within countries between liberals/globalists and conservatives/home centric groups are becoming more widespread throughout the world. Not just a U.S. issue any longer.

OVI +1

Yes the Badd Guys have gained a lot of ground during the Biden Admin. They have been trying to destroy the USA for a long time. But the tail is wagging the dog. Every day they fight everything the new POTUS wants to do.

They did everything they could to get 15-20 million illegal aliens into the US. Now they are doing all they can to keep them here. Why ? The plan is simple. Redraw the voting districts, give the illegal aliens the ability to vote in national elections. A turn the USA into the USSA …

Frankly … in the long run I don't think Canada will break up. They don't have it that bad …

This is totally up to the Liberal Party. Carney is pushing destructive Net Zero policies which effectively destroys the resource and farming economies of Alberta and Saskatchewan. So this autonomy movement is a referendum on Carney, it's the strongest message they can send that Carney has to consider ALL of Canada, not just his Liberal Party priorities.

But that would mean the Liberal Party would have to compromise on its nigh religious Net Zero fetish at the center of its platform.

But that would mean admitting they could be wrong -- and when have you EVER seen a Leftist do that??

So either Carney defies the Liberal Party pack and compromises to meet the needs of Alberta and Saskatchewan, or they are left with only one path -- independence.

They did everything they could to get 15-20 million illegal aliens into the US. Now they are doing all they can to keep them here. Why ? The plan is simple. Redraw the voting districts, give the illegal aliens the ability to vote in national elections. A turn the USA into the USSA …

It's even more fundamental than that. Biden changed the US Census regulations so that EVERYONE is counted, specifically including illegal aliens. This inflates Blue State populations to the equivalent of TWENTY SEVEN CONGRESSIONAL SEATS!

Without counting non-voting, non-citizen, controlled populations of illegal aliens, the Democrats lose power in Congress. The same thing they tried to do with their Slaves at the beginning of our Country -- resulting in the "3/5s Compromise" solution.

So in the past the Democrats could only could 3/5ths of their Slaves for Congressional Apportionment, now they can count 100% of their slaves!

Seriously, Canada? You think it's clever to allow China to avoid US tariffs by transhipping Chinese crap via Canada into the US and pretend its really Canadian products!?!?

Shippers rushing to reroute goods to Canada to reduce tariff exposure

USCoS – As U.S. tariffs on Chinese goods soar to as high as 145%, a growing number of companies are rerouting shipments to Canada and storing them in bonded warehouses in hopes of avoiding the duties and capitalising on a future rollback. This strategy has caused a sharp spike in Chinese shipments to Canada, with logistics firms and customs brokers reporting surging inquiries and storage demand from consumer goods, chemical, and auto parts sectors. However, experts caution that prolonged storage costs—estimated at $1,750 USD per container per week—and limited warehouse capacity could force sellers to offload discounted goods into the Canadian market, potentially disrupting domestic manufacturing. Others warn the strategy is risky and unsustainable, especially if the trade conflict drags into next year's U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement negotiations.

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Looked like the POTUS And new Canadian PM had a good meeting at the WH today … So the wheels are turning … The Fat Lady hasn't sung yet.

"The Fat Lady hasn't sung yet."

I thought the fat lady ran off to Ireland with her girlfriend when Trump was elected (yes the Banshee has returned home.😔).

But maybe you speak of the fat Sirens of "the View"? 😉

Oh yeah she bailed … Another lefty Hollywood type. Who has no concept of reality, etc.

The View is a good example for Lefty Hollywood types …

But of course, as with Kamala, people actually believe what these Hollywood West Coast denizens have to say …