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11 Jan 2025 6:54 p.m. PST
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NotNelson11 Jan 2025 10:14 a.m. PST

Does anyone know when the Bavarians took these guns out of service? I'm guessing it was somewhere between 1800 and 1804? I'm also struggling to find good images of it – apparently it had a block trail which was unusual (except for the British) at that time.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP11 Jan 2025 12:19 p.m. PST

If anyone can help then the question is more understandably framed by going back through the other sites linked. As it is it makes no sense at all.

Prince of Essling11 Jan 2025 12:51 p.m. PST

I believe you are referring to the Rumford (Sir Benjamin Thompson, Count Rumford) system of block trail which were introduced in 1791, and replaced by the Manson system from 1800. The only drawing I have is from the Dawson, Dawson & Summerfield book is for a 3pdr – copy at link Note however the 6pdr had a split trail (drawing by Stephen Summerfield) – heavier calibre guns may also have had the split trail.

Interesting hand written piece titled "Memoir of the New Bavarian Field Pieces" link

For more see "Geschichte des 1. Feldartillerie-Regiments Prinz-Regent Luitpold, Volume 1"
Rudolf Xylander (Ritter und Edler von)
E.S. Mittler und Sohn, 1905
link (Note you will need to use a VPN to simulate USA if not based there).

DevoutDavout11 Jan 2025 2:13 p.m. PST

Thanks as always Prince. Find something new with each post.

NotNelson12 Jan 2025 3:34 a.m. PST

Thanks Prince – that's exactly what I was looking for. Not sure what happened with the topic name – it said 'Rumford 3pdr' when I posted it!

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