Editor in Chief Bill | 09 Jan 2025 9:55 p.m. PST |
What percentage of your normal tabletop can you fill with trees? * 100% * 50% * none etc. |
John the OFM | 09 Jan 2025 10:21 p.m. PST |
Fort Zinderneuf? 0% Teutoburgerwald? 80% |
John the OFM | 09 Jan 2025 10:24 p.m. PST |
Personally, I can fill 50% with model trees. I usually put down felt, and populate them with trees that can be moved to allow scythed chariots and Tiger 2 tanks to traverse. 🙄🤷 Not my idea, but I get outvoted by unscrupulous gamers! |
GReg BRad | 09 Jan 2025 10:46 p.m. PST |
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TimePortal | 09 Jan 2025 10:54 p.m. PST |
Depends on scenario. We did a Vietnam scenario where the board was all jungle trees and lichen. There were open areas marked with open terrain. We also did a Highlands scenario with only spotty trees. |
ochoin | 09 Jan 2025 11:35 p.m. PST |
Trees in the Highlands may be speckled but they're not spotty. See here: link |
Martin Rapier | 09 Jan 2025 11:51 p.m. PST |
All of it? I use templates and scatter tree models around on the templates. I do have quite a lot of trees though…. |
advocate | 10 Jan 2025 2:10 a.m. PST |
Which Highlands are we talking about? And when? |
14Bore | 10 Jan 2025 2:17 a.m. PST |
From a suggestion some years ago on a TMP question I had, I use green felt with enough trees to pin it down. My trees are made with a push pin and a straw attached then can stick my trees into that. I have a fair amount of them. |
Herkybird | 10 Jan 2025 2:30 a.m. PST |
Depends on the density of the trees, the size of the trees and the type of tree, so yes and no! |
robert piepenbrink | 10 Jan 2025 4:04 a.m. PST |
This is sounding as unhelpful as trees by numbers. My apolgies, Bill. My target is 25% of table area in temperate climates. (6'x8' 28mm and 54mm; 4'x4' 10 & 6mm; 3'x3' 2mm.) Naturally this means I can play on an entirely wooded smaller table, but this usually only comes up in 28mm skirmishes. (Beware of Ewoks! Or Wookees!) Above about a 4'x4', I'd lose castings on an entirely wooded board anyway. |
robert piepenbrink | 10 Jan 2025 4:11 a.m. PST |
Advocate, I think Ochoin is discussing the highland areas of Vietnam and Ochoin the Scottish highlands, which I'm told are more extensively wooded now than they were in the 18th Century and earlier. (Less grazing, and more people having their nutrient-rich ashes dumped on beautiful views, coupled with reforestation programs.) |
Sgt Slag | 10 Jan 2025 6:55 a.m. PST |
5.5-foot x 9.5-foot table, which I can cover in trees spaced around 6" from one another. But, that is using all of my trees: evergreen, deciduous, and palm trees (if they're a different type -- couldn't find them listed). Cheers! |
StoneMtnMinis | 10 Jan 2025 7:47 a.m. PST |
For my ACW and AWI, clearings around towns and farms, pretty much everything else has got trees. It all depends on the time period, the geographic location, and type of battle. Generals like to fight over terrain which is beneficial to their army and tactics, if at all possible. Nobody wanted to fight in the Wilderness, it was forced on them. |
Oberlindes Sol LIC | 10 Jan 2025 7:56 a.m. PST |
I have trees, but I also have felt and the like to indicate wooded areas. I have done jungle scenarios that were almost entirely wooded areas with some paths, watercourses, and meadows. (On the suggestion of game designer Frank Chadwick, I started using browns instead for table cloths and wooded areas, which looks more real than green.) The original question is pretty specific, however: What percentage of your normal tabletop can you fill with trees? My normal tabletop is about 6ft x 6ft. If I put all of my tree miniatures on the tabletop (conifers, palms, deciduous trees, and non-terrestrial trees that would probably not occur together anywhere), they might cover as much as 25% when seen from above. The actual ground occupied by tree trunks would of course be much less than the area under the canopy of branches. |
79thPA | 10 Jan 2025 7:59 a.m. PST |
Depends how much spacing you allow between trees. |
BTCTerrainman | 10 Jan 2025 9:00 a.m. PST |
I usually have enough trees around to fill several 12'x6' tables at 100% |
jefritrout | 10 Jan 2025 9:44 a.m. PST |
I think that I can only fill one 18'x6" table 100% but am waiting on the next batch being finished to be able to full 144 sq ft. of trees. |
etotheipi | 11 Jan 2025 5:47 a.m. PST |
I have three basic sizes of tables, so I'll go with the bigger one … standard dinner table Can? IDK … 300%+? I have about 2/3 table full of evergreens and snowy evergreens. Mabye 1/2 of a table of tropical and another 1 of deciduous in summer and winter. Then on top of that some topiary and decorative trees, including some bare ones. And I have about 1 square foot of floral monster figures. |
irishserb | 11 Jan 2025 5:24 p.m. PST |
9'x5' table: 28mm jungle – 100% 20mm jungle – 50% 15mm Forest – 70% 6mm forest – 60% |
The Last Conformist | 12 Jan 2025 11:24 p.m. PST |
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Old Contemptible | 13 Jan 2025 1:07 a.m. PST |
I don't have a normal size table top. It varies. I have enough miniature trees to build a miniature wooden city. |
UshCha | 13 Jan 2025 1:35 a.m. PST |
I use Anngel Hair as a base so trees are puerly cosmetic and a reiminder it's trees so there is a height and visibility issue. I have covered most of an 6ft by 6ft board but as 79th PA notes it's density that is the issue. On a full board the density is less than I would choose but on the other hand how much time do you want to waste just putting trees out? Again I guess it depends on your desired balance between gaming and visuals. Me I err on the game side, visuals are a secondary concern so time putting trees out beyond a certain level is counter productive, bettr things to do in life. |
Anton Ryzbak | 13 Jan 2025 9:33 p.m. PST |
100% of an 8x5 table I use soft fabric shapes to define wooded areas and then drop trees on them for visual effects. But I did go bonkers a while back and bought 250+ trees for 20mm |
miniMo | 15 Jan 2025 3:41 p.m. PST |
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