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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian09 Jan 2025 9:55 p.m. PST

What percentage of your normal tabletop can you fill with trees?

* 100%
* 50%
* none
etc.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP09 Jan 2025 10:21 p.m. PST

Fort Zinderneuf? 0%
Teutoburgerwald? 80%

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP09 Jan 2025 10:24 p.m. PST

Personally, I can fill 50% with model trees. I usually put down felt, and populate them with trees that can be moved to allow scythed chariots and Tiger 2 tanks to traverse. 🙄🤷 Not my idea, but I get outvoted by unscrupulous gamers!

GReg BRad09 Jan 2025 10:46 p.m. PST

70% of a 4x5 table

TimePortal09 Jan 2025 10:54 p.m. PST

Depends on scenario.
We did a Vietnam scenario where the board was all jungle trees and lichen. There were open areas marked with open terrain. We also did a Highlands scenario with only spotty trees.

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP09 Jan 2025 11:35 p.m. PST

Trees in the Highlands may be speckled but they're not spotty.

See here:
link

Martin Rapier09 Jan 2025 11:51 p.m. PST

All of it? I use templates and scatter tree models around on the templates.

I do have quite a lot of trees though….

advocate10 Jan 2025 2:10 a.m. PST

Which Highlands are we talking about? And when?

14Bore10 Jan 2025 2:17 a.m. PST

From a suggestion some years ago on a TMP question I had, I use green felt with enough trees to pin it down.
My trees are made with a push pin and a straw attached then can stick my trees into that. I have a fair amount of them.

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP10 Jan 2025 2:30 a.m. PST

Depends on the density of the trees, the size of the trees and the type of tree, so yes and no!

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP10 Jan 2025 4:04 a.m. PST

This is sounding as unhelpful as trees by numbers. My apolgies, Bill.

My target is 25% of table area in temperate climates. (6'x8' 28mm and 54mm; 4'x4' 10 & 6mm; 3'x3' 2mm.) Naturally this means I can play on an entirely wooded smaller table, but this usually only comes up in 28mm skirmishes. (Beware of Ewoks! Or Wookees!) Above about a 4'x4', I'd lose castings on an entirely wooded board anyway.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP10 Jan 2025 4:11 a.m. PST

Advocate, I think Ochoin is discussing the highland areas of Vietnam and Ochoin the Scottish highlands, which I'm told are more extensively wooded now than they were in the 18th Century and earlier. (Less grazing, and more people having their nutrient-rich ashes dumped on beautiful views, coupled with reforestation programs.)

Personal logo Sgt Slag Supporting Member of TMP10 Jan 2025 6:55 a.m. PST

5.5-foot x 9.5-foot table, which I can cover in trees spaced around 6" from one another. But, that is using all of my trees: evergreen, deciduous, and palm trees (if they're a different type -- couldn't find them listed). Cheers!

Personal logo StoneMtnMinis Supporting Member of TMP10 Jan 2025 7:47 a.m. PST

For my ACW and AWI, clearings around towns and farms, pretty much everything else has got trees.

It all depends on the time period, the geographic location, and type of battle. Generals like to fight over terrain which is beneficial to their army and tactics, if at all possible. Nobody wanted to fight in the Wilderness, it was forced on them.

Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP10 Jan 2025 7:56 a.m. PST

I have trees, but I also have felt and the like to indicate wooded areas. I have done jungle scenarios that were almost entirely wooded areas with some paths, watercourses, and meadows. (On the suggestion of game designer Frank Chadwick, I started using browns instead for table cloths and wooded areas, which looks more real than green.)

The original question is pretty specific, however:

What percentage of your normal tabletop can you fill with trees?

My normal tabletop is about 6ft x 6ft. If I put all of my tree miniatures on the tabletop (conifers, palms, deciduous trees, and non-terrestrial trees that would probably not occur together anywhere), they might cover as much as 25% when seen from above.

The actual ground occupied by tree trunks would of course be much less than the area under the canopy of branches.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP10 Jan 2025 7:59 a.m. PST

Depends how much spacing you allow between trees.

BTCTerrainman Supporting Member of TMP10 Jan 2025 9:00 a.m. PST

I usually have enough trees around to fill several 12'x6' tables at 100%

jefritrout10 Jan 2025 9:44 a.m. PST

I think that I can only fill one 18'x6" table 100% but am waiting on the next batch being finished to be able to full 144 sq ft. of trees.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP11 Jan 2025 5:47 a.m. PST

I have three basic sizes of tables, so I'll go with the bigger one … standard dinner table Can? IDK … 300%+?

I have about 2/3 table full of evergreens and snowy evergreens. Mabye 1/2 of a table of tropical and another 1 of deciduous in summer and winter. Then on top of that some topiary and decorative trees, including some bare ones. And I have about 1 square foot of floral monster figures.

irishserb11 Jan 2025 5:24 p.m. PST

9'x5' table:

28mm jungle – 100%
20mm jungle – 50%
15mm Forest – 70%
6mm forest – 60%

The Last Conformist12 Jan 2025 11:24 p.m. PST

What 79thPA said.

Personal logo Old Contemptible Supporting Member of TMP13 Jan 2025 1:07 a.m. PST

I don't have a normal size table top. It varies. I have enough miniature trees to build a miniature wooden city.

UshCha Supporting Member of TMP13 Jan 2025 1:35 a.m. PST

I use Anngel Hair as a base so trees are puerly cosmetic and a reiminder it's trees so there is a height and visibility issue. I have covered most of an 6ft by 6ft board but as 79th PA notes it's density that is the issue. On a full board the density is less than I would choose but on the other hand how much time do you want to waste just putting trees out? Again I guess it depends on your desired balance between gaming and visuals. Me I err on the game side, visuals are a secondary concern so time putting trees out beyond a certain level is counter productive, bettr things to do in life.

Anton Ryzbak13 Jan 2025 9:33 p.m. PST

100% of an 8x5 table
I use soft fabric shapes to define wooded areas and then drop trees on them for visual effects. But I did go bonkers a while back and bought 250+ trees for 20mm

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP15 Jan 2025 3:41 p.m. PST

* As much as needed.

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