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Baranovich31 Dec 2024 1:53 p.m. PST

A while back I posted several brief tutorials for painting my 28mm ACW armies, and I shared the specific paints that I used.

Just looking at my Flickr page, I came across a photo from another painting project that I think really helps show the deviation from painting Union forces with "dark blue" and "light blue."

When painting my Union forces, I kept in mind and had at hand a number of Don Troiani images and sought to match up the shades of blue he achieves in his paintings with my miniatures. And in doing so also attempt to help make my Union armies in any scale "pop" as much as possible on the tabletop.

And the two best colors I found to achieve this are two GW Contrast paints, "Stormfiend" and "Nighthaunt Gloom":

At the risk of sounding like I'm saying or claiming there is an absolute "right" or "wrong" color for something so broad as Union blouses, coats, and trousers, there is of course no such thing. I can easily find photos of original Union uniforms that are indeed quite a dark shade of blue. As well as trousers that are indeed on the lighter side of "sky blue."

However, I did base my paining on the general assertion that MUCH of the Union uniforms issued were indeed not the extreme dark or light blue, but indeed were closer to "medium" blues along the spectrum. These medium blues were either the uniform's color at the time of issue, or they became faded from use.

Another aspect of "Union blues" that I sought to achieve was Troiani's observation that many Union coats faded to either a sort of greenish blue or grayish blue. And that Union trousers after some fading and after being washed took on a slight greenish cast that mixed in with the blue.

I also took the knowledge that in many contractor factories, there was often not specifically different colors of blue dyes for the coats and trousers, both were in fact dyed using the same exact blue color dye except for the fact that when the trouser cloth was being dyed, it was a diluted version of the blue used for the coats, making it lighter but nevertheless from the same base color.

Therefore, Union coats and trousers often were actually deviated in color from what is considered navy blue or sky blue.

Troiani shows this extensively throughout many of his works:

And some original coats, trousers, and caps:


And then finally my Union forces painted with the two Contrast colors "Stormfiend" and "Nighthaunt Gloom":

And then finally, my 3D printed Thorin Oakenshield, whose hooded cloak and tunic are painted with the exact same two Contrast colors as all my Union coats and trousers are. You can see from these photos, these colors are anything but extreme "dark" and "light" or extreme "sky" blues. Stormfiend is indeed quite a medium blue with a grayish cast, and Nighthaunt Gloom is a grayish blue with a slight green cast to it.

Hitman31 Dec 2024 3:23 p.m. PST

They look great to me. Don't forget that blue dyes were all different depending on what was used in the dye making process.

Personal logo gamertom Supporting Member of TMP31 Dec 2024 5:38 p.m. PST

I use the same Nighthaunt Gloom for Uni9on pants, mostly because it matched a craft paint I had found that matched an old Polly S color that has long dried out. The Polly S color had been recommended for the same reasons you give. I'll try out Stormfiend. Lately I've been using Contrast Ultramarine Blue for Union Coats.

Personal logo Woolshed Wargamer Supporting Member of TMP31 Dec 2024 6:38 p.m. PST

Hi Baranovich
Those two contrast paints you used – straight over a white/grey undercoat right? Any other shading?

Cheers
Brian

Baranovich31 Dec 2024 10:20 p.m. PST

Thanks for the feedback guys, much appreciated!

@Brian,

Most of the Perry plastics I did were primed in either Tamiya White or Tamiya Light Gray fine surface primer spray can, or GW Grey Seer spray can. I think I also did some with a hardware store brand white spray primer which came out equally as good as the hobby primers did.

So essentially yep, all the Contrasts were over a white or light gray primer.

There's no additional shading or highlighting, this is just a straight up single pass of the Contrast colors over the primer coat.

Garryowen Supporting Member of TMP01 Jan 2025 3:38 a.m. PST

Nice work on the ACW Union blue. I could never understand why so many wargamers paint them and French Naps in a medium blue.

I have heard the argument that colors get darker on smaller figures. But they look too light so much of the time. Pretty, but not historical.

Tom

Prince Alberts Revenge01 Jan 2025 12:14 p.m. PST

Figures look fantastic. Nice choice of colors to depict your union troops. I've been playing around with speed paints and contrast paints a bit more recently albeit in 10mm.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP01 Jan 2025 4:09 p.m. PST

Very nice work with your Yankees. "Stormfiend" and "Nighthaunt" are not colors I want on my paint table however. Who thinks of those names, AI?

Personal logo Woolshed Wargamer Supporting Member of TMP01 Jan 2025 8:03 p.m. PST

Thanks Baranovich.
I am currently doing Rebs with GW contrast and AP speed paints. I like the colours of your Feds so might give that a try.

Many thanks
B

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