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taskforce5823 Dec 2024 4:39 p.m. PST

As the title says, in a unit of Haselrig's Lobsters (I'm looking at Peter Pig's 15mm btw), would you go with all having plumes on the helmet, some with plumes, or no plumes at all?

DisasterWargamer Supporting Member of TMP23 Dec 2024 7:10 p.m. PST

Facebook Haselrig Reenactment group shows plumes facebook.com/OnlyInHeaven

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Realized I have to add a bugler

Gaming wise go with what you like

KeepYourPowderDry Supporting Member of TMP23 Dec 2024 8:35 p.m. PST

Ostrich feather plumes are considered by many as de rigeur for the Civil War outfit. Alas it is very much a Victorian fancy dress construct, and generalisation based upon portraiture of the great and good.

The Wars of the Three Kingdoms became very fashionable thanks to Walter Scott's treatment of Montrose. Queen Victoria was appalled by Montrose's memorial stone in Edinburgh and ordered the statuesque memorial that we see today. The romantic ideal became a cause celebre, and the dashing cavalier/crop headed Roundhead imagery became cemented in the nation's consciousness.

Being a cavalier at grand fancy dress balls and pageants became the height of fashion. Surviving clothes were not in keeping with this Victorian ideal so were modified (!).

Alas these wrong but wromantic/ right but repulsive images live on in film, pictures, and figure ranges.

Historical evidence and Occam's Razor tell us that big plumes would be few and far between.

Ostrich feathers were ridiculously expensive bling that appeared in portraits of the very well to do. The fashion for blingy feathers adorning hats trickled down to the masses, who had to resort to using feathers of native birds. Ostriches not being known for their migratory flight over the British Isles, would mean big plumes would be few and far between.

But at the end of the day they are your toys, and if you want them go for it.

Maybe just use plumes for the command figures? PP 'officer' is barely different from the rank and file. I added a scarf using green stuff (the plumed versions were not available when I bought mine, although tbh I would probably not have bought them).
Very important to add a herald to your unit, heralds were really important historically, their role was much more than just playing their trumpet.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP24 Dec 2024 8:51 a.m. PST

I didn't realize so many reenactors wear "bright" armor. I've always thought it was mostly blackened or browned.

takeda33328 Dec 2024 2:28 p.m. PST

Excellent explanations!

pikeman66628 Dec 2024 6:58 p.m. PST

Once deployed into the field, how often do you think rain occurred?
How long is the lifespan of a plume in the rain?
A plume is a parade-ground doo-dad. Once in the field no man escapes mud, wet conditions, and filth.It's only a question of how much, regardless of the efforts of your servants.
I paint and collect soldiers, not parade ground fancy boys.

Baron von Wreckedoften II01 Jan 2025 3:18 a.m. PST

The Wars of the Three Kingdoms became very fashionable thanks to Walter Scott's treatment of Montrose. Queen Victoria was appalled by Montrose's memorial stone in Edinburgh and ordered the statuesque memorial that we see today.

Not in period, for which apologies, but this reminded me that the officers of the Scots (then Scots Fusilier) Guards were reprimanded during her reign for drinking the Jacobite toast in the mess – passing their whisky tumblers over their finger bowls to acknowledge "The King Over The Water!"

KeepYourPowderDry Supporting Member of TMP01 Jan 2025 4:59 a.m. PST

Blimey O'Reilly! The Jacobite cause is still strong in some parts, they almost make the King Charles the Martyr Society look 'rational'

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