"Global Warming? 4.6!" Topic

You were asked – TMP link

How Worried Are You About Climate Change?

On a scale of 0 (no worry) to 10 (extreme worry).

Average response: 4.617

I only worry about things I have control over. 🤷

+1 to what the OFM said.

In the 1970's in college science classes we were taught that there was a coming ice age.

I just figured we solved that problem and so I no longer worry about the climate.

Mike Bunkermeister Creek

This is another case where the distribution is far, far more informative than the arithmetic mean. Less than 10% of people voted anywhere near 4.6. 48% voted 0, 1, 9, or 10. So some of us are very worried and others are not worried at all.

It would be interesting to look into those people in the middle. I understand the people at the top and bottom, but I don't know what the people in the middle are thinking.

But there's little point in averaging the responses.

Placed in the same "worry box" as the possible extinction of leprechauns and unicorns. And I hail from the Arizona desert.

No ability to slow or stop it myself, too old to worry about the long term effects, didn't see the poll question.

6-7 if I worry about island and coastal communities.

In an interesting twist to "putting your money where your mouth is," one of the most persistent global warming advocates was confident enough in the stability of global tidal levels to purchase a multi-million dollar water-side estate some years ago (Obama). Likewise, the Biden family have their famous sea-side estate. Just two examples.

In an interesting twist to "putting your money where your mouth is," one of the most persistent global warming advocates was confident enough in the stability of global tidal levels to purchase a multi-million dollar water-side estate some years ago (Obama). Likewise, the Biden family have their famous sea-side estate. Just two examples.

How do you think they raised the $$ to buy the places? The Green Energy scam.

Right now I see it as an insurmountable data collection challenge. If it is not in a warming trend it would be in a cooling trend. We've been coming out of an ice age for the last 10,000 years.

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I just want to know what the temperature of the Earth should be, how are we going to get it there, and how we create a thermostat to regulate it so it does not get warmer or colder. Oh, and how much it will cost too.

Wolfhag

We've been coming out of an ice age for the last 10,000 years.

Actually, we're not coming out of it, this is just a temporary warming period in the Earth's current ice age. Your point is still valid.

I just want to know what the temperature of the Earth should be

Should is not the realm of science. Should is the realm of morality. You'll have to ask people who want to impose their morality on the planet …

Excellent points Wolfhag and etotheipi

Merry Christmas all!

Don't know about Biden's, but Obama's place is high enough above the water line that by the time global warming is an issue, it won't be his problem (and by that time, life in Hawaii will be a lot different, since so many roads lie close to the shore).

Just a counter point to the conservative view in which it seems that everything always comes back to Obama and Biden somehow. Owning coastal homes proves they scammed us!

My reasons not to worry –

1. I don't live in the South where the storms are increasing, though I help pay for repairs.
2. We won't be here when it gets bad. Luckily, our kids are smarter than we are, they are already working on saving themselves.
3. And the big one: it's too late now to stop it using 20th century thinking.

Fair and balanced!

Not a conservative view. Merely naming the lead grifters who shove this nonsense down our throats for their own benefit and rub it in by where they choose to locate their compounds. Believe whatever you want but we don't like paying to solve an imaginary problem anymore than you wish to pay for repairs in the South.

Global warming is not an imaginary problem. It is simple and basic science.

What are being proposed are imaginary solutions.

We currently lack the type of models that can support predictions like "X% of fossil fuel emission reeuction will result in Y degrees of global warming slow over Z years".

Even if we develop such models in the next couple of decades (and the computing power to run them), we do not have the granular data from the past to support granular predictions (like the one above).

Independent of those points, anthropogenic global warming (the idea that human actions affect the climate) is a fact. What the above points mean is that we cannot isolate the effect of specific human actions from the effects of broader, uncontrollable factors on the specific progress of climate change.

This is a subtle point, cricial to discussion of climate change, in between "it is fact" and "it is fiction".