"syphilis Came from the Americas" Topic

We gifted them smallpox, they countered with the gift that keeps on giving, syphilis.

Subject: Columbus did not take syphilis to the Americas – he brought it back to Europe


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And polygamy keeps it going.

There was that medieval abbey cemetery dug up in southern England a while ago with skeletons that had the hallmarks of syphilis. Not sure what came of that research.

Learned that from a 10th grade Health film and JFK was still alive. Hamilton-great town and home of the 35th (well we have their 2nd set of Nat'l colors). H

Well, don't look at me!

Everything great does.

@Woolshed Wargamer unearthed burials at multiple sites in England as well as Continental Europe have confirmed that syphilis was present in medieval Europe long before Colombus. This is an enlightening documentary:

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It's worth noting that with the scientific confirmation of its presence, some medievalists are reexamining the written and artistic record and realizing that it actually was documented prior to Columbus. As the documentary discusses, it was neither pandemic nor notably endemic. This, combined with the accepted theory that syphilis was a "New. World" disease, led many scholars to assume that medieval writers were describing a different kind of disease.

Ferd45231,

Been there many times. My first event back in 79 was Hamilton. Travel through on my way to "Jungle Jim's". Have done a lot of living histories at Glendower Mansion in Lebanon, Ohio

As the story explains, syphilis was diagnosed archeologically from markings on the bones previously, but DNA testing is more accurate.

So are the pre-Columbian bones in Europe syphilis or something else? Needs more testing…

We have so many "pre-Columbian" discoveries that it's hard to keep track!
Samuel Eliot Morrison's "European Discovery of America" lists a bunch. Debunked? 🤔

So, let's blame Leif Ericson or those Randy Irish monks with Saint Brendan the Navigator! Or the Templars and Sinclairs! And the Priory of Sion!

Columbus sailed over with a "rutter" that had to have been written by an earlier voyager.
Sailors in port? 😱

Wasn't there some Carthaginian Johnny who also gets credit? Phoenicians who "arrived" around 350BC?
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I think it really exploded in Europe after Columbus. During the 16th Century the Spanish called it the "French" disease, the French called it the "Italian" disease, and the Italians called it the "Spanish" disease (or something like that), because it suddenly became a lot more common and everyone wanted to blame someone else.

Now we can call it the "Diddy pox."

Parzival wins, hands down.