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Personal logo StoneMtnMinis Supporting Member of TMP29 Nov 2024 3:45 p.m. PST

………..the Russia Ukraine war?

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79thPA Supporting Member of TMP29 Nov 2024 3:55 p.m. PST

Ukraine is probably getting the feeling that Trump is not going to continue to feed them military support at the level they are getting now. That said, Russia will not agree to Ukraine becoming a NATO country.

I read an article yesterday about large numbers of young Ukrainians actively avoiding military service and staying inside so they don't get rounded up by recruiting units. If a significant number of young people don't have the will to fight for their own country, it is just a matter of time before the war ends in Russia's favor. They will play the attrition game until whoever is left in Ukraine demands that the country cease hostilities.

Nine pound round29 Nov 2024 5:18 p.m. PST

The United States won't agree to Ukraine becoming a NATO member- to say nothing of Russia.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian29 Nov 2024 5:28 p.m. PST

The US already guaranteed Ukraine's sovereignty…

Prince Alberts Revenge29 Nov 2024 5:54 p.m. PST

Sebastian Gorka, Trump's nominee for head of counter terrorism said a few days ago regarding Trump's plan was to pressure Zelensky to negotiate and for Putin:

"He [Trump] will say to that murderous former KGB colonel, that thug, who runs the Russian Federation: you will negotiate now or the aid that we [the US] have given to Ukraine thus far will look like peanuts.That's how he will force those gentlemen [Zelenskyy and Putin] to come to an arrangement that stops the bloodshed."

Personal logo StoneMtnMinis Supporting Member of TMP29 Nov 2024 5:56 p.m. PST

Or in Diplo-speak, a Korean style DMZ patrolled/manned by NATO forces. Putin could probably live with that.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP29 Nov 2024 10:32 p.m. PST

I have said that before as well as others in the media. I think setting up a DMZ as in Korea. Manned by UN troops to keep the "peace" so to speak. Of course, many UN forces are in NATO as well.

As I have said, I served 22 months with a forward deployed Mech Bn of the 2ID. Had 2 tours on the DMZ. This situation has gone on since the truce that ended hostilities in 1953. And we have been running the DMZ mission ever since. It works in Korea. It could work in this situation in Ukraine.

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2024 2:31 a.m. PST

Gorka! The pain relief supplements tv sales guy. Doesn't Putin already want to negotiate…ah, forget it. I'm sure Trump will use those same tough guy words next time he calls Putin. Not..

korsun0 Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2024 4:37 a.m. PST

Putin will want to end this because he needs the troops for Georgia. He cannot be reasoned with. Any peace in Ukraine needs to make sure he doesn't come again. The UN are WOFTAM.

Dragon Gunner30 Nov 2024 4:39 a.m. PST

"I read an article yesterday about large numbers of young Ukrainians actively avoiding military service"-79thPA

If they are unwilling to fight then it is over and they can embrace their new overlord Russia.

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2024 6:13 a.m. PST

Also true in Russia? But Ukraine has no North Koreans.

soledad30 Nov 2024 6:23 a.m. PST

Raids in Moscow nightclubs to pick up suitable young men for the war effort.

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My guess is that all those who can bribe their way out will do so. Those that cannot will be cannon fodder. So not necessarily a raid to increase the number of troops more likely a operation to line the pockets of the police involved with bribe money.

ROUWetPatchBehindTheSofa30 Nov 2024 6:42 a.m. PST

The relevant analysis of the last 1000 days… There is a good chunk on public opinion in Ukraine, Russia and the US.
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SBminisguy30 Nov 2024 8:40 a.m. PST

Gorka – cool, a good addition to the Trump team, he's a hard-@$$ against leftist and jihadism.

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Grattan54 Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2024 10:02 a.m. PST

The "As Seen on TV Cabinet."

SBminisguy30 Nov 2024 12:21 p.m. PST

Sure, if you wish to dismissed his credentials and experience 'cause he developed a successful radio show after his government days.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2024 12:55 p.m. PST

@Tort, very true. But there is a distinct psychological difference in avoiding military service to invade another country as opposed to avoiding military service to protect your own country after it has been invaded. An article today discusses the large desertion problem within the Ukrainian armed forces after 3 years of warfare. Entire units have reportedly gone home. Regardless of who is in the Whitehouse, I don't know how long a country can survive when a lot of it's military age people have lost the will to fight. Russia can find enough bodies to win the war of attrition.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2024 8:20 p.m. PST

WOFTAM ? Does that mean the UN sucks ?

Personal logo Wolfshanza Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2024 10:21 p.m. PST

Does in my book ! evil grin

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP01 Dec 2024 2:02 a.m. PST

I agree the U.N. is broken, and needs a reboot.

Personal logo Dal Gavan Supporting Member of TMP01 Dec 2024 3:04 a.m. PST

WOFTAM

Aussie for Waste Of Flaming (or other adjectives starting with "F") Time And Money. Often heard when describing local town councils, politicians and similar.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP02 Dec 2024 9:38 a.m. PST

Plus, don't forget the ICC. They are biased and corrupt as the UN.

Thanks Dal ! I'm a Yank but I may use it in the future.😎

Personal logo Dal Gavan Supporting Member of TMP02 Dec 2024 11:15 a.m. PST

Thanks Dal ! I'm a Yank but I may use it in the future.

No worries, mate. It's amusing to watch peoples' faces as they try to work out what you said.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP03 Dec 2024 1:26 p.m. PST

👍👍😎

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