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robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2024 11:22 a.m. PST

I'd have said "break the rules" but that's ambiguous. Calling here for real people whose conduct or abilities so far exceeded the human norm that you'd have to use special rules to use them in a skirmish game. My nominees:
Sir Richard Grenville (Morale & Constitution)
William the Marshal (Melee combat & Longevity)
Phil Kearney (Morale)
Baron Ungern-Sternberg (Morale & Charisma)
Sir Walter Cowan (Morale & Longevity)
Rasputin (Constitution & Charisma)

Who else have we got?

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2024 11:33 a.m. PST

Simo Häyhä – Finnish master sniper (Skills with ranged weapon, Constitution)

Léo Major – Canadian soldier, "the one eyed ghost" (Melee combat and Constitution)

Carlos Hathcock – US Marine sniper, "the White Feather" – (Skills with ranged weapon, Constitution)

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2024 11:39 a.m. PST

Audie Murphy?

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2024 12:17 p.m. PST

I've always associated "breaking the rules" with smug hippies. (Did I date myself with that? Does Gen Z even know what a hippie is? 🤔)

I will also insist that these are "Real People".
In a game where every other character had 3 Hit Points, I gave Hawkeye, Uncas and Chingachgook 5. Note that every other squad had 8 characters, but they only had themselves.
Note also that I gave them no special abilities, except giving Hawkeye an automatic musket reload even while running.
Flashman? 🤔 Charisma, certainly. Definitely saving throws being automatic.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2024 12:25 p.m. PST

As for Real People;

"Mad Jack" Churchill. In World War 2, skill with longbow and broadsword.

Adrian Carton de Wiart. He can take as many wounds as are dished out, but he only loses bodily function for that wound. But he has infinite hit points. No saving throw, but with infinite hit points, so what?

Google them. I shall leave explaining as an exercise for the student. 😄 Wikipedia is sufficiently worshipful.

Michael May Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2024 12:54 p.m. PST

Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck. Disregarding orders is the same thing as breaking the rules, right?

UshCha Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2024 1:07 p.m. PST

Sargent Hollis VC. In fact all those awarded with a VC.

Lucius23 Nov 2024 1:37 p.m. PST

Billy Dixon, ranged weapon

Personal logo Doctor X Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2024 2:18 p.m. PST

Chuck Norris, everything.

Cardinal Ximenez23 Nov 2024 2:27 p.m. PST

Banastre Tarleton – Hatred, Determined

Personal logo enfant perdus Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2024 4:16 p.m. PST

Sir Evelyn Wood VC (Morale & Constitution)

As a 16yo midshipman he fought at Inkerman and was made AdC to the commander of the Naval Brigade. Despite being bedridden with cholera, he roused himself to join the assault on the Redan at Sevastopol where he was severely wounded. He refused to let the surgeons amputate his arm. Invalided to England, he joined the Army, returned to the Crimea, and was almost immediately stricken with typhoid and pneumonia which came very close to killing him. After recovering he was posted to India where he was promptly attacked by a tiger, then later nearly trampled to death by a giraffe. He was miraculously unscathed during the Mutiny, despite being frequently in CQB with mutineers and bandits. He finished his time in India by nearly dying of fever and sunstroke.

His later exploits would include surviving an accidental overdose of morphine (prescribed for insomnia), being shot in the chest during the Ashanti War (which slowed him down for one day), and having a horse killed under him in the Zulu War. Against all odds, he remained unscathed during the Gordon Relief Expedition.

bobspruster Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2024 4:22 p.m. PST

Sgt. Alvin York. (Marksmanship, Humility.)

Extrabio1947 Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2024 5:08 p.m. PST

Lawrence Chamberlain

Sergeant Reckless, the hero Mongolian Mare of the Korean War

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Personal logo Old Contemptible Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2024 10:58 p.m. PST

Thomas Cochrane, 10th Earl of Dundonald

microgeorge24 Nov 2024 2:05 p.m. PST

Bruce Lee, Brian Shaw, and George Saint Pierre.

Wolfhag Supporting Member of TMP24 Nov 2024 5:06 p.m. PST

Chesty Puller (wins outnumbered 10-1, bonus for jungle warfare and against Asian enemy)

Wolfhag

Deucey Supporting Member of TMP24 Nov 2024 5:30 p.m. PST

Julius Caesar

He can can rewrite any rule (to simulate his writing down the "history").

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP25 Nov 2024 4:28 a.m. PST

None.

Don't need to break the rules to play any of the feats of the above (the ones I know).

dapeters25 Nov 2024 12:54 p.m. PST

Richard I

Mark J Wilson29 Nov 2024 3:25 a.m. PST

Has to depend on your rules

Dave Crowell04 Dec 2024 7:55 a.m. PST

Miyamoto Musashi legendary swordsman and duelist who purportedly switched to a wooden sword as using a steel blade was no longer a challenge.

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