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carojon23 Nov 2024 3:47 a.m. PST

I have started work on building a collection of War of 1812 ships to add to my collection of 1:700 age of sail models with the two frigates that met 500 miles south of the Azores on the 25th October 1812, USS United States and HMS Macedonian.

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This was the second of the three frigate actions of that year that would shake the British admiralty from a level of complacency that had come to characterise the approach to naval warfare by some British captains in their level of readiness and preparedness, and the outcome poses some what-ifs from the findings of the court martial of Captain John Carden, his officers and crew that could make a replay of the action interesting.

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In this post I have taken a look at the action together with the 3D printed models used to represent these two famous frigates, and if you would like to know more then just follow the link to JJ's

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JJ

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2024 7:43 a.m. PST

Fascinating story all around.
So, the 38 had 44 guns, and the 44 had 56 (57?) guns. Got it.

As usual when reading Hornblower and the like, this lubber here lets the author ramble on when describing the ships and tactics. I trust he knows what he's talking about.

Beautiful models.
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IronDuke596 Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2024 9:41 a.m. PST

I enjoyed the action description and admire the quality of this pair of model ships. Thanks for posting this article. I look forward to many more.

carojon23 Nov 2024 9:48 a.m. PST

Hi and thank you.
Yes I know what you mean. One problem was that some folks like the British didn't include carronades when counting guns, whilst others did, and then if you start including the differences in pounds and tonnage between combatant's, it all starts to get a little bit confusing, to say the least.

However if you find this stuff interesting it can be quite fun discovering what was what.

Cheers
JJ

carojon24 Nov 2024 1:51 a.m. PST

Hi IronDuke596,
Thank you for your comment and your comment on the blog where I have given a more complete response to your question.

Needless to say, I am looking forward to putting Lt. David Hope's theory to the test when the opportunity presents.

Cheers
JJ

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