"Lutzen 1632 Swedish Brigade - Pikemen -Poses" Topic

I went back to one of mine ancient passion, i.e. the TYW. I started to draw the pikemen for the Swedish Yellow Brigade for my usual ratio 1:1. I got immediatly a problem:

How to pose the figures of a "squadron" of pikemen?.
In order to use them both at rest and in fight.
Considering they were 6 ranks deep I thought this array:

this array is fitting for defending from cavalry attacks, but do you agree to represent in this way?
and what about this pose?:

I always choose the 45 degree angle as a compromise for my miniatures with some upright behind them. The pike down version makes gaming very awkward.

Thanks. The pike down would be for charges between infantry blocks. The 45° degress is the first right or the middle one?

Sorry for being vague. it is the figure just to the right of the three figures with upright pikes in your first illustration. I very much like the look of your pikemen and may copy it for the squadron of the yellow Brigade I am presently painting.

A couple of things on my mind:

Pike length:
Yellow brigade were veterans? Did they cut their pikes down to size during the campaign?

Drummers:
Whilst standing around or moving then the drummers ought be out front. They'd move to the sides of the pike block during the fighting.

Pike captains.
The pike company captains might have had half-pikes rather than spontoons.

Formation whilst moving/under artillery attack:
They'd be six ranks deep with the Captains out front. They'd be six foot between ranks and maybe the same between files (need space for pikes).

Fighting Formation:
They'd probably double their files ending up three ranks deep with three feet between ranks and files. (Like musketeers doing salvo.)

NB The spacings and doublings mean that the overall frontage would remain constant, whilst the depth would change.

eg 6ft spacings (36 x 12 yards): 216 pikes = files x36 @ 6' = 216' = 36 yds, ranks x6 @6' = 36' = 12 yds. Add on actual man depth and width

eg 3ft spacings (36 x 3 yards): 216 pikes = files x72 @ 3' = 216' = 36 yds, ranks x3 @3' = 9' = 3 yds. Add on actual man depth and width

So for a brigade you'd have pikes (216) x 3 @ 36 yds = 108 yds and muskets (192) x 2 @ 32 yds = 64 yds, total frontage: 172 yds. Add on for spacings between corporalships, blocks. I'd allow 200 metres.

wow @Stoppage. Thanks I have to meditate about what you just wrote. Very interesting. I will try to reproduce at 1:1 ratio

@paper

Your re-creations are always entertaining.

Visuals would be good.

Please note that my utterings…

…differ from the norm.

@stoppage
I finally prepared the first 30 pikemen. I will publish here a and on my blog the results…