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Stalkey and Co03 Nov 2024 8:08 p.m. PST

Did the French and Prussians use any flags or banners to mark where the Brigade, Division and Corps HQs?

I am making some command bases for my FPW game, and I'm sure they must have had some sort of flag, even if it was just a rank flag for the brigade commander.

Also, the U.S.A. was using them in the ACW, so I assume they got the idea from someone else.
Thanks for any info!

Martin Rapier04 Nov 2024 5:43 a.m. PST

I can't say HQs marked with flags is something I've ever come across in the FPW. I've not seen them in photographs or contemporary illustrations (apart from the very fanciful ones of heroic soldiers engaged in hand-hand combat).

I suspect in an era of rifled breechloaders with artillery ranges measured in miles, sticking a big flag on your HQ was a really bad idea. The infantry and cavalry gave up carrying standards very quickly indeed once the shooting started.

NapStein04 Nov 2024 2:27 p.m. PST

The French had flags to mark the place of commanders on the battlefields; there's a plate in the Lienhart & Humbert, which I may provide – but I'm abroad and my collection is not at my hand.

But I remember a fragment of the famous panorama of Rezonville, done by Détaille and Neuville – and found this in the internet at

picture

It shows the flag of Marshal Canrobert held by a sergeant of the French 1st hussars.

When I'm back at home I'll provide the Lienhart & Humbert plate.

The Prussians didn't have a similar system.

Greetings
Markus Stein

Stalkey and Co04 Nov 2024 2:36 p.m. PST

Much thanks, Markus. Even knowing that they used a French Tricolor is helpful.

Altho weapons had long ranges, that doesn't mean you have to put it out in the open for all to see. We still use a variety of flags and metal signage for Soldiers to find units when we are training – they are put outside the door of a battalions main tent.

Martin Rapier04 Nov 2024 11:55 p.m. PST

Oooh, that is interesting, I've not seen that picture before. A little tricoleur would be a nice addition to an HQ.

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