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Disco Joe23 Oct 2024 3:27 p.m. PST

Does anyone have a list of the vendors that will be attending Fall In? I looked at the HMGS site and it lists about 48 vendors and claims it is near real time and yet I didn't see Old Glory listed. I wonder if they decided not to come.

jtkimmel23 Oct 2024 4:07 p.m. PST

The vendor list on the Fall In! website is up to date, Old Glory is not registered as a vendor.

HMS Exeter23 Oct 2024 6:31 p.m. PST

Old Glory has stopped attending Fall In. They haven't been there in several years. I dont know if they've been attending Historicon. I stopped going to that one.

IIRC the rationale was the cost, the impossibility of scrunching their entire product line into a workable booth, and the steadily increasing utility of the internet.

Sadly, no Old Glory also means no Sash and Saber.

14Bore24 Oct 2024 2:57 a.m. PST

Old Glory missed Historicon this year, it is one of my most needed vendors. Viking Forge is there and have fantastic figures but sadly having in 15mm Napoleonic only French and Russian and have no French and Russians need only supernumerary.

Disco Joe24 Oct 2024 3:54 a.m. PST

Exeter, according to Fall In 2023 book Old Glory was there and I remember purchasing some 28mm figures from them produced by a company called Mann.

Personal logo Flashman14 Supporting Member of TMP24 Oct 2024 5:53 a.m. PST

Something needs to change here. The vendor area has really diminished in recent years and the selection is worse than ever.

TSD10124 Oct 2024 6:55 a.m. PST

Can't stop the slow march of time. Some vendors have decided they're better off financially to stay home and sell online instead of spending hundreds of dollars per dealer table, plus gas, tolls, time driving, wear and tear on vehicles, hotel rooms etc. How many dealers nearly break even or barely turn a profit for all that effort?

Old Glory Sponsoring Member of TMP24 Oct 2024 8:13 a.m. PST

There are actually several issues with going to the shows for OG
1.Staffing. We have a difficult time getting workers to just keep up
with daily operations and volume of sales.

2. Cost of metal. With thousands of codes the days of filling all those bin with inventory is no longer a financial or practical option
3. The cost of gas, tolls, truck rental,6 or 7 hotel rooms for staff, etc is a consideration also.

Regards
Russ Dunaway

Tumbleweed Supporting Member of TMP24 Oct 2024 9:06 a.m. PST

The Viking Forge will attend Fall-In next week and will offer a large selection of our own metal figures:

Minifleet 1/2400 scale ships from 1898 to the present

The Hamilton range of 18mm Napoleonic figures

15mm Asgard Renaissance range

15mm Matchlock Miniatures ECW range

We will leave our 15mm Ancients, 1/285 micro-scale armor and 25mm Fantasy ranges at home. It's just too much work to bring it all!

We will also bring a large quantity of previously owned, painted and unpainted 15mm Napoleonics from other manufacturers, especially Minifigs 2nd Generation, as well as a large selection of aircraft and naval information booklets published by the U.S. government during WWII.

Hope to see you there!

TRUgamer24 Oct 2024 9:20 a.m. PST

Russ,
Couldn't you have a limited cross section of your inventory? Or perhaps a booth to take/pickup orders? This would minimize the amount of staff and booth size required.


TRU

BTCTerrainman Supporting Member of TMP24 Oct 2024 2:20 p.m. PST

Battlefield Terrain Concepts will unfortunately not be attending Fall In this year due to a previously scheduled obligation (Daughter's wedding on 11/1). Hard to schedule these types of events when the show dates are not announced early enough.

Watch our website and/or Facebook site for sales in late November through December.

OSCS7424 Oct 2024 4:43 p.m. PST

Cotton Jim will be there!!!

Disco Joe24 Oct 2024 4:48 p.m. PST

TRU, that is an excellent idea.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP24 Oct 2024 6:38 p.m. PST

I hate to say it, but some of the no-shows are right. If you've got a shiny new product or do a lot of custom work, you want to come to the big conventions and let everyone get a good look. But for an industry standard like Old Glory, it's a lot of trouble and expense to sell stuff we all know well enough to order on line.

kcabai24 Oct 2024 7:05 p.m. PST

BTC, does that mean to infer that if you knew the Fall-in dates earlier, you would have picked a different day for your daughter's wedding?

HMS Exeter25 Oct 2024 12:19 a.m. PST

If the weather promised to be nice enuf he could have moved the wedding to the Wyndham. Apparently, that big open plaza next to the vendor hall hosts a lot of weddings,

BTCTerrainman Supporting Member of TMP25 Oct 2024 5:55 a.m. PST

kcabai: Had I known the dates earlier, I would have potentially had more leverage. I did not pick the date, and wedding facilities fill up quickly. Usually, the date has been the week following the current dates.

Northern Rebel25 Oct 2024 6:19 a.m. PST

I guess having the wedding at the Wyndham wasn't an option? LOL!
Being in the dealer hall in a tux would have been uncomfortable!

Seriously, Congratulations to her! And you, since you now have a shiny new son-in-law to bring into the hobby fold.

Garryowen Supporting Member of TMP25 Oct 2024 1:48 p.m. PST

Russ, I will miss the nice visit we had on Saturday afternoon at Fall In last year. It was fun to talk about the early days of the hobby.

Tom

Old Glory Sponsoring Member of TMP25 Oct 2024 3:23 p.m. PST

Tom
Indeed.. the long forgotten stories we could tell.
Russ Dunaway

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP26 Oct 2024 12:37 a.m. PST

The convention itself priced me out of going, just to shop for bargains. Plus, I have a dog to take care of.

Personal logo BrigadeGames Sponsoring Member of TMP26 Oct 2024 4:56 a.m. PST

Brigade Games will be there.

14Bore26 Oct 2024 7:23 a.m. PST

For those planning on attending, weather here has been exceptionally dry and pleasant. Expecting at least high 70s on Halloween so hopefully the few days after will be somewhere nice.

ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP26 Oct 2024 9:51 a.m. PST

Conventions can be tough for vendors. PaperTerrain has been coming to HMGS conventions for almost 20 years, but I skipped Historicon this year and I doubt I'll be at Cold Wars next year. I've never made a lot of money at any of the cons, but they are fun to go to and I like to let people see my products in real life and talk to them. But in the last few years I've actually started losing money at the cons and that's unsustainable. I will be at Fall In.

YogiBearMinis01 Nov 2024 6:39 a.m. PST

For someone like an Old Glory/Blue Moon, would it make sense to run a (smaller and cheaper) booth that was designed to be "display" and not for retail? Bring your catalogs, bring photo books of your figures painted and also bare lead, and have a bunch of sample figures painted up and on display—like Sgt Major and others used to do. Sure, much to most of this duplicates the website, but we wargames are old school sorts, and I know I for one liked seeing figures in the flesh.

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