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Garde de Paris21 Oct 2024 4:44 a.m. PST

Today is the 219th anniversary of Nelson's victory off Cape Trafalgar, Spain.

Amazing era!

GdeP

Andrew Walters21 Oct 2024 8:10 a.m. PST

Indeed, a big day.

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2024 9:34 a.m. PST

A decisive battle if ever there was one. All hail Collingwood!

Royston Papworth21 Oct 2024 9:58 a.m. PST

His immortal memory!

DeRuyter21 Oct 2024 10:03 a.m. PST

Visited HMS Victory and the Dockyard about two weeks ago. Massive restoration underway and scheduled to continue for another 10 years.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2024 10:20 a.m. PST

Word is that our two new carriers need some escorts badly. Fit out Victory with some depth charges and the other odd bits of ASW and it is back in action.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2024 10:31 a.m. PST

Honour the Day and the men!

Kropotkin30321 Oct 2024 11:48 a.m. PST

Glad it has been remembered. My Mum's birthday so I always do.

Andrew Walters21 Oct 2024 12:29 p.m. PST

Victory as an ASW platform… are those old ships quiet? I don't know if they are loud, quiet, or average. And I certainly don't now how you'd mount the sonar!

Strike that. Quick conversation with (redacted) tells me Victory would be very quiet for all the reasons you'd expect – no propeller, slow, little machinery, lots of ship above the water line shedding acoustic energy, and most of the sounds made on an old ship are not the kind that carry and certainly not the kind passive sonar processors are looking for.

Hull mounted sonar is out, but at those low speeds a towed array is idea. These require just 1-10kW, so you'd need a way to generate that which wouldn't create too much noise, but that's a lot less power than I thought might be necessary.

And you could just drop modern homing torpedoes into the water, fancy tubes would not be necessary, just a cable from the sonar to the torpedo to pass on some targeting info.

Sorry to sidetrack the thread, but that idea really grabbed me.

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