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Gunner Dunbar Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2024 1:20 a.m. PST

Hi guys

(Please read the whole review, as I finished the review a thought occurred to me that may explain some things)

Review, 4D Puzzle models Sdkfz 7 and 7/2, or is it an Sdkfz 8?

I have hundreds of unbuilt 1/72 WWII models in my stash, I don't know how many exactly, but it's somewhere between 500-700, plus I 3D print, so have hundreds of unpainted 3D models, probably 300-400, so I don't really buy many models nowadays, but when curiosity and price point meet, I'll make a purchase, I came across these 4D 1/72 Sdkfz 7 and 7/2 kits dirty cheap, and they looked simple but OK in the advertised, so it peaked my interest and I bought 2, they were around $7 USD Australian each with free shipping from China, they arrived a couple of months ago, but I had no time to make them until now, so I thought I'd make one and do a review for any others who may be interested.

I'll write up a quick review, however, I don't think I'll bother making them, as I was unpacking, I thought they looked quite large, a little larger than I expect, so I did a quick measurement, at 1/72 the Sdkfz 7 should be about 32mm wide and 95mm long, the body of the model comes in at 36mm wide and 104mm long, so it's actually 1/64th scale not 1/72nd, which is very annoying as they may with a little work have built up into a nice model.

This will be a short review, as the scale errors have almost annoyed me enough to the point of not doing one, I should have just printed a model,

The packaging is a very simple set of clear plastic bags, with the instructions on a 1 page double sided sheet, the 2 models are the standard Sdkfz 7, and an armoured cab Sdkfz 7/2 flak 37 anti aircraft vehicle, at first glance they look simple, but may build into a decent wargaming model, curiously some of the parts are painted, I think these maybe the pre built version of a die cast model, which may account for the scale of 1/64 being aimed at the die cast hot wheels crowed rather than the 1/72 modelling crowed, but in an attempt to make more sales they are mislabeled as 1/72.

Having written all this, something has popped into my mind, is this kit incorrectly labelled as an Sdkfz 7 and 7/2? Is it an Sdkfz 8? The dimension are close to being correct for a 1/72 Sdkfz 8, however I'm not sure the 37mm flak 37 was mounted on the Sdkfz 8, having a closer look at the unarmored version (in grey plastic) there is a seem running down the middle of the bonnet, the sdkfz8 had a split bonnet, the Sdkfz 7 didn't, so it looks like it is indeed an 8, which now begs the question, is the flak 37 dimensionally correct, if so, I can use that on a different model, and replace it with a flak 88

So in conclusion, it isn't correct as an Sdkfz 7 and 7/2, but more correct as an Sdkfz 8 (yet to be confirmed through more research) but I'm unsure there was a sdkfz 8 with a flak 37 gun, more research needed, which all reinvigorates my interest in building this model, the un armoured Sdkfz 8 version anyway, I'll look at finding a flak 88 for the armoured version. Pretty weird experience writing a review and changing directions mid review, I should probably re write the whole thing, but I'll let it stand as is.
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Hornswoggler06 Oct 2024 1:39 a.m. PST

Dan,

I am sure, like me, you have seen a ton of these and similar from China all over Aussie ebay. There are plenty of knocks on most of them, the main one being wide variations in the advertised scale. Others include some mostly fictitious vehicles, vehicles with common 'simplified' running gear assemblies, etc, etc.

Most of what people need to be wary of is summarised in the general warning at Henk's site:
fox3000.com/4dmodel.htm

P.S. Will posted about the sdkfz 7/2 on his blog – he reckoned they are about 1/67:
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Gunner Dunbar Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2024 2:31 a.m. PST

Yes, if your making it as an Sdkfz 7/2, then it's about 1/67, but I've looked at the road wheels closer and it's definitely an Sdkfz 8, which makes the size about right, however the flak 37 configuration is wrong for an 8, so the unarmoured Sdkfz 7 is good to make an Sdkfz 8, but the 7/2 needs a lot of work to make its carry the 88, I might leave that one, and just make the unarmoured version.

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