"Flags of the Irish Catholic Confederation" Topic

Finally found the source material for descriptions of the Irish Catholic Confederation. Needless to say I need to replace all of my Irish regiment of foot flags.

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You write:

"Note that in the point dexter of every Ensigne there is the Crosse of Ireland, in Canton, the Crosse Gules in the field Or, and under every Crosse, Vivat Carolus Rex, and the imperiall Crowne over these letters C.R.
In plain English, this translates as the reverse of the flag should be green with an Irish cross in a red circle, King Charles's cipher above (a crown above the initials CR), and Vivat Carolus Rex underneath.

This makes no sense – have you missed out a sentence or something?

The first sentence is not describing the reverse of the flag, and does not mention green: it is describing the design that appears in the canton (=top corner by the flagpole) on the obverse of every flag.

The reverse of all the Colours should be a an Irish Cross within a red circle on a green field. Below this should appear Vivat Rex Caralus (Long live King Charles) and above that C.R and the imperial crown.

The original translation is up the spout. My notes refer to the original Latin

Apologies Gurkhan, that was a very hurried answer when my mind was elsewhere. The description refers to the individual obverse designs. Each has a red cross on a yellow field in the canton, with the words Vivat Carolus Rex, and the royal cipher.

The reverse side is described elsewhere in the document. My note is the nonsense. I shall amend it so that it is clear and correct.

Hayes-McCoy in his "A History of Irish Flags from earliest times" agrees with your interpretation, KYPD. That is the obverse of all flags being green with cross in red circlet and motto. He does mention that this particular list may have been a design suggestion and may not have been put into actual use.

With that said, I choose to use the unique design on both sides because I use the flag carried to identify the unit. They are assigned to Irish confederation units (including Montrose's Irish) rather arbitrarily. :-)

Thanks for the information KYPD.

FWIW I choose to use 4 figures on all my 10mm Irish W3K period battalia command stands with an officer, drummer or piper and two ensigns. One has the flag of the faction they represent and the other a unique "unit" flag. For the Confederation battalia each has one of the coloured flags discribed above for the unit and I have used the Green "Irish cross" as their "faction" flag.

I'm still waiting for the C17 wargaming flag police to come knocking on my door :)

Here's a few shots of some of my completed Confederate battalia for Benburb:

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Kiwi RedOne, they look good, and a nifty idea. Only one problem now though… you're going to have to go into hiding, the c17 wargaming flag police are, even now, starting to hunt you down…

KYPD – that's much clearer now, thanks.

A very good piece of work, congratulations.

This is a great catch! Thank you for your attention to detail.

Great looking units, KiwiR1. I like your choice for flags as well.

More good info on an obscure area!

Thank you all for the kind words, apologies for the earlier confusion – clearly had a brain fart