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UshCha07 Sep 2024 2:37 a.m. PST

In the latest Busrk Scenario it has become obvious that some platoons have had their supply lines cut. They have been out on missions so need to reload ammo and pick up supplys. So they need a marker to note where thay have stored extra food an ammunition. Now clearly a bit of card would do, but anybody got a good idea how to make it a bit more artistic but not look out of place in woodland or grassland. In urban it would be hidden inside a house model so not an issue. Multiple markers types a no go too much phaff, deteracts from the game.

Thanks in advance, Brian

smithsco07 Sep 2024 7:54 a.m. PST

Do you have spare supply vehicles? You could treat them as their stored supply points. You could also cut up craft sticks into small squares, paint them, then stack them to look like supplies that are stored.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP07 Sep 2024 8:21 a.m. PST

I would go to ebay or etsy and type in "1/144 crate."

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UshCha07 Sep 2024 12:51 p.m. PST

The small packages and Crates is a great idea! Anybody got sizes of say Nato crates, 5.56 ammo boxes, NLAW Boxes, MRE big boxes and any other sized "Infantry stores "crates. Easy to draw up these and then print a load in a big stack like smithsco notes.
Thanks guys!

smithsco07 Sep 2024 2:56 p.m. PST

It appears that NLAWs are shipped individually. It appears they are slightly larger than an NLAW. Round tube flared at the ends. Two square "rings" near the middle so they sit flat. I tried linking a pic and it didn't work.

UshCha08 Sep 2024 1:11 a.m. PST

On this topic I found this which I felt was of interest.

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former German Army Paratrooper, Croatian Defense Council, Kosovo Liberation ArmyUpvoted by
Blake Shaddix
, U.S. Army Veteran and
Mario Stradale
, I trained and I was a gun safety Officer in a NATO allied country.7y

Before you run out of ammo, you usually run out of food. Therefore, you can ask the guys who deliver the food to pack a few hundred rounds of whatever you need and bring it to you with the chow.

On the rare occasion that you are in the middle of combat and you are getting low on ammo, there are several ways to deal with the situation:

Send someone back to your logistics unit to get some ammo. You can also tell the logistics guys to meet you halfway or somewhere outside of the dangerous zone. This way, your guys save time and energy (You'll always send at least two soldiers to do this job as nobody ventures out alone in a combat zone).

Alternatively, you can ask a neighboring unit which is not under fire to help you out. We did that several times during the Kosovo War and almost always our "neighbors" were very eager to help us out and brought the demanded supplies straight to the front line, often risking their lives. Most of the times we asked for RPG grenades as they are quite heavy and we simply didn't carry a lot of them with us. You encounter an enemy tank or two and your grenades are gone.

German paratroopers carrying ammo, Italy, 1943

Sometimes, we "cannibalized" our own soldiers: a guy or a squad that hadn't engaged with the enemy and still had all their ammo was ordered to give a couple of mags to a comrade or a unit that was low on ammo.

Of course, we also picked up ammo from the enemies that we killed, but that was more a "bonus" than a regular way of supply. Don't count on this method when you are in combat. Chances are slim to zero that an enemy shows up in front of you just when you are on your last mag.

There are many more ways how to get some ammo in combat. During the Bosnian War, I even heard of guys who were fighting in an urban zone and who had to buy their ammunition from some local civilians.

If all supply methods fail, you have to retreat. Of course, this is not desirable, but never count on your supply before you hold it in your hands! A lot of things can and do happen on the front line and you always have to make plans in case that your supply doesn't come through.


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So of interest was the RPG grenades, that is an issue with our current scenario we only allow 3 RPG grenades per launcher to be carried in combat, perhaps a bit low but they are heavy. Hence in our current scenario my guys are out of position and out of RPG grenades and they are well isolated (Ukraine type VERY low troop densities).

So RPG 7 box (I hate using immagination it can be way off reality) RPG 7 Box 6 rounds 830*450*280mm (at 1/144 5.76*3.13*1.94mm)

NATO 5.56 ammo box 30 by17 by 21 cm (1/144 2.08*1.18 * 1.46 mm).

Now I will need about 9 boxed to cover a bit more than 3 rounds per team allowing for them to load an approprate mix of natures (HE, HEAT, ILL). So a few of them and a few 5.56 ammo boxes and some MRE boxes (45 by 30 by 30 cm) and we have a credible looking pile suitable for all forces, no way am I ging to do diffrent box loads for diffrent platoon sizes and nationalities: I do have limits and sorting is a real pain on the day.

Thanks for the inspiration.

The base will be about 30mm by 20mm ,can't be more as it needs to be put inside my snallest typical building. It will be Low (1 box high) as at a push stands will need to be placed on top, potentially inside a building if the S**T hits the fan.

UshCha08 Sep 2024 12:08 p.m. PST

Well here it is. The base is thick as there is a recessed area underneath to note what is being stored (it is just a marker) and can be updated by dry wipe marker as its used.

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A few 12mm bits to show size.

RPG 7 boxes each of 6 rounds, set in sets of 3 so you could see which natures are running out (HEAT, ILL or HE).
A number of 5.56mm ammo boxes I think 200 rounds each and some MRE boxes.

Good job I did it right, imagination would have made the boxes far too big, making it looking like fantasy and I hate that.

Thanks again at least I have used your ideas.

It is a bit of a concern how you would place the stores in the real world. Should they be in there own trench ,assuming you have time to do this? This would be difficult to represent as the base is excessively tall already due to game reqirements.

I have worked on providing roughly 3 days stores not covering water. I assume at a push you would use less than a perfect water supply filter it through a cloth and then use the tablets in the MRE pack.

Personal logo Dye4minis Supporting Member of TMP10 Sep 2024 2:37 p.m. PST

Looks just fine to me! Also like the tree bases. Have loads of those trees made in China and each needs a base. Clumps looking attractive. Will post pics once done.

Supplies could be covered by a tarp or camo net? Such a looking base could surely be used as the location of resupply? Say one such base per truck? Need to make the "pallet" fit in the truck bed.

Most folks haven't an idea how much water weighs and how quickly it gets consumed!

UshCha10 Sep 2024 11:36 p.m. PST

Dye4minis, Thanks -The tree bses sre s bit crude but I hd to chsngr to thrm \i found they needed to be weighted with a coin, no so much for the tree as to hold the angel hir down as it gets older it has a slight issue with snagging.

I di think of doing a tarp but thought it would be less obvuius. Plus lets be honest I would really struggle trying to sculp a credibl;e tarp, boxes is easy.

A truck based pallet would be very small at this scale for say a unimog style trucl You are not going to get Mann.
style trucks direct to the front.and we don't actually put trucks on. If you get the road covered by direct fire you can claim road closed, speeds the game.

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