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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian27 Aug 2024 2:11 p.m. PST

You voted for it – TMP link – and here it is.

Enjoy!

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP27 Aug 2024 2:58 p.m. PST

Hurrah!

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP27 Aug 2024 2:59 p.m. PST

A new board!

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP27 Aug 2024 2:59 p.m. PST

Lovely!

shadoe0127 Aug 2024 5:55 p.m. PST

Grrrreat!

Personal logo Dye4minis Supporting Member of TMP27 Aug 2024 8:18 p.m. PST

Finally! Thanks to all who supported it.

I'm collecting Pendraken for 10mm FPW and 1866.

Mollinary28 Aug 2024 5:27 a.m. PST

Brilliant. My forces are also 10mm Pendraken, pushing 10,000 of them. Prussians, Bavarians, Saxons, Wurttembergers, French. Lovely figures, and great coverage of the forces involved.

Grattan54 Supporting Member of TMP28 Aug 2024 10:39 a.m. PST

Wish this had been combined with the Danish War and Austro-Prussian War. They are so close and linked together.

Eleve de Vauban Supporting Member of TMP28 Aug 2024 10:51 a.m. PST

Well hurrah. I shall follow this board with great interest. A few weeks ago I was with a group of enthusiasts on a FPW trip with "The Cultural Experience", following the route of the battles and various museums. The new FPW museum at Gravelotte is wonderful, as is La Derniere Cartouche museum.

Mollinary28 Aug 2024 1:40 p.m. PST

Gravelotte Museum is now10 years old! I remember its predecessor.

Old Contemptible28 Aug 2024 4:45 p.m. PST

Thanks to everyone who voted in my poll!

I want to ask everyone to tell us why are you interested in this period and what makes it such a great period to game?

Perris0707 Supporting Member of TMP28 Aug 2024 7:52 p.m. PST

The art of De Neuville and Detaille got me interested in the war back in the 1970's. Then I read Michael Howard's book on the war, and I was hooked. Really the last major war where uniforms were still colorful, and European armies still went into battle with flags flying. As for gaming the conflict, there are so many "what if" scenarios that no two battles need ever be the same. Plus the conflict offers a lot of variety. You can do large battles like Gravelotte-St. Privat, smaller actions like Wissembourg or Spicheren, or small skirmishes over farms, villages, or towns. I have a large 15mm collection and have just started into the 28mm scale as well.

ChrisBBB2 Supporting Member of TMP29 Aug 2024 2:02 a.m. PST

I first got interested in this period via the Russo-Turkish War of 1877-1878, which I discovered as a teenager and loved for its exotic obscurity as much as anything. From that, I then got into all the other 'hyphenated wars' of the later nineteenth century, including FPW.

As for why I am still interested and what makes it great for gaming, I can do no better than to quote the introduction to the 'Bloody Big BATTLES!' ruleset that was first created expressly to enable recreating the major FPW battles easily and in their entirety:

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Why is this period so interesting? To answer that, consider the Napoleonic era which precedes it. By 1815, after 25 years of continuous continental warfare, broadly the same weapons and tactics are common to all European armies (albeit some are better at using them than others). The ‘holy trinity' of protection, mobility, and firepower, as embodied by the three arms of infantry, cavalry, and artillery, is in perfect balance, making battle a kind of complex exercise of rock-scissors-paper between very similar forces.

But as the century wears on, disruptive technologies appear: breech-loading rifles in the 1840s, breech-loading rifled artillery in the 1850s, machine-guns and repeating rifles in the 1860s. And not only weaponry, but also railroads, steamships, ironclads, the telegraph, observation balloons …

And while technology develops apace, most nations spend most of the time at peace. Consequently, each time a war breaks out, the protection-mobility-firepower equation has been modified, and each time, the armies engaged have to learn new lessons the hard way – in some cases, the wrong lessons, which then cost them dearly in their next conflict.

The bad news for the troops is that constant improvements in weaponry mean that maneuver under fire becomes more and more difficult, and battle gradually reduces to a contest between firepower and protection. This eventually reaches its apex in the static trench warfare of the First World War, with mobility squeezed out almost entirely.

But the good news for wargamers is that, for the few decades we are interested in, tactical maneuver persists. War continues to be decided not by long weeks or months of attrition across hundreds of miles, but by decisive clashes between whole armies lasting usually no more than a day or two. These are fought on battlefields just a few miles across, making it possible to capture an entire battle in one tabletop miniatures game.

Furthermore, the evolution of weapons and tactics means that many of these conflicts pit opponents of very different character against each other, making for some fascinating interactions at the tactical level.

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In short: big, decisive battles, between asymmetric opponents, which means lots of variety and lots of interesting tactical challenges.

shadoe0129 Aug 2024 8:26 a.m. PST

What ChrisBBB2 wrote!

An era that's on the cusp of change is always interesting to play – and a challenge to write useable rules. The FPW (and related conflicts) has that combination of old and new – armies pretty much with previous era uniforms, organisations, doctrine, tactics, etc. while trying to figure out how to adapt to new, disruptive technology. Some of this is in the ACW but without the older era uniforms or the range of types of cavalry – so less colour.

Mollinary29 Aug 2024 1:28 p.m. PST

This period has it all. Colourful uniforms, and regiments going into battle under their regimental standards, accompanied by military music. Tactics trying to adapt to rapidly changing technology, with artillery and small arms evolving at different rates in different countries. Cavalry still a force, but on the wane. Artillery potentially decisive, but with the need to be deployed at the right time, in the right place. Infantry, the queen of the battlefield, but still evolving its tactics to account for development in weapons. Endlessly interesting!

NapStein01 Sep 2024 6:01 a.m. PST

I‘m happy that the TMP editorial staff opened the new board – thank you.

My interest started with the Napoleonics more than 40 years ago, but due to some publication projects the FPW and the 2nd french empire is also on my focus.

I‘m no wargaming expert (never played in a game, but I want to visit the SALUTE in London next year), but hopefully I may be of help for some of you enthusiasts – and I may announce that after the 2 volume book about the FPW uniforms and equipment we prepare a similar one for the war of 1866.

Greetings from Berlin
Markus Stein
(Editor of 2empire.de )

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