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Cuprum2 Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2024 7:10 p.m. PST

There are also many volunteers from other countries fighting in the Russian army. Usually they are not formed into separate units and are simply included in the standard structures of the Russian army.

American volunteer:

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French volunteers:

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French volunteers participate in repelling Ukrainian attack in Kursk region:

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Cuprum2 Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2024 7:25 p.m. PST

Article from 2023 about foreign volunteers in the Russian army:

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Serbian volunteers:

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A Japanese volunteer who joined the international Abkhaz brigade "Pyatnashka":

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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2024 8:06 p.m. PST

Ah!… but you have not Argentinian volunteers… the Ukranians have a whole unit… so… you are going to lost… (smile)

Armand

Cuprum2 Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2024 8:10 p.m. PST

Instead, there are Colombians))) Also part of the international brigade "Pyatnashka":

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Cuprum2 Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2024 8:21 p.m. PST

British volunteers:

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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian20 Aug 2024 8:22 p.m. PST

Fools gambling their lives for a big payoff.

Seems India got their people sent home.

Cuprum2 Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2024 8:26 p.m. PST

No… These are ideological people. For most of them, the enemy is globalism, Nazism, neoliberalism and neocolonialism. And they could have earned money by fighting on the side of Ukraine. Without risking being imprisoned in their homeland. This is why most of them are forced to hide their faces.

I generally like the reasoning about mercenaries on both sides of the front))) If they are just mercenaries – why doesn't the other side pay them more?

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2024 8:31 p.m. PST

Colombians… bah!…We should agree on a football match between both nations… the winner… keeps the other's territory. (We would represent Ukraine)…


Armand

Cuprum2 Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2024 8:39 p.m. PST

Yes. That wouldn't be the worst option)))

smithsco20 Aug 2024 9:17 p.m. PST

You can't fix stupid and volunteering for service with the Russian army is stupid (unless you're Russian and the Germans are heading east of course). Regardless of ideology you will have inept commanders who throw your life away. Russian generals gotta do their thing.

Cuprum2 Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2024 9:35 p.m. PST

This is only in Western and Ukrainian propaganda. In reality, the competence of the command of both sides is quite comparable.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2024 9:50 p.m. PST

But… seems that Putin is no longer Russia's saviour …


"At the start of this month, Kyiv's exhausted forces seemed at last overwhelmed by their opponents' superiority in manpower and firepower. But once again, they have defied expectations. The Ukrainian Armed Forces' mass incursion into Russian territory has unfolded at lightning speed and with unexpected success. More than 1,000 troops now occupy a swathe of the Russian Federation's territory, which Moscow is struggling to recover.

Ukraine has launched occasional smash-and-grab raids on Russia over the last two and a half years, but this attack is on another scale entirely — it is a bona fide invasion. Ukrainians are justifiably cock-a-hoop. Putin's three-day war to conquer their country has resulted in what many commentators have claimed is the first invasion of Russia since the Second World War. The mood in ruling Russian circles could, meanwhile, hardly be bleaker. Moscow is struggling with a spluttering economy and a growing military recruitment problem — despite offering increasingly large cash bonuses to recruits, the number of newcomers is still matched by the number of casualties. Ukraine's "terrorist" attack on Kursk, as the Kremlin is labelling it, adds more fuel to these fires. It is the most serious issue that Vladimir Putin has faced since February 2022.

Putin has a knack of escaping dire situations with his reputation intact. If we cast our minds back to his first days in power, we are reminded that his Russia has been marched on before — and that the president responded mercilessly. Will he do the same this time?…"

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Armand

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2024 10:02 p.m. PST

Belarusian volunteers fighting on side of Ukraine entered Kursk – tank with their flag moves there


YouTube link


Armand

Cuprum2 Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2024 10:50 p.m. PST

Tango, this attack only united the Russians in the desire to win)))
Before that, as I understand it, there were some unspoken agreements about in which territories hostilities were taking place and where not. Do you think that the Ukrainian border is equally protected along the entire perimeter bordering Russia? Definitely not. Now an additional thousand kilometers of active front will be added for the Ukrainian army, which is already experiencing a personnel shortage. So the Ukrainians can now expect a strike in any direction. I hope that Putin will now conduct another wave of mobilization and put an end to this war at once. Three new groups of Russian troops are currently being formed in three new directions. I think they will go into battle in the fall.

And in the Donetsk direction, the Russians are still advancing)))

The Ukrainians need to go three times more kilometers to Kursk than they have done now))) These are just their pipe dreams)))

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nickinsomerset20 Aug 2024 11:56 p.m. PST

"Nazism, neoliberalism and neocolonialism" – Funny seeing as they have sided with the worst Nazi vermin since the 1930s.

Seems not that long ago the russians were complaining about foreign volunteers fighting for the Ukraine against the fascist invaders.

Tally Ho!

Cuprum2 Supporting Member of TMP21 Aug 2024 12:32 a.m. PST

The Nazis are fighting on only one side of this war. There are whole brigades of them. And they don't actually hide it…

Porthos21 Aug 2024 1:38 a.m. PST

Nazis led by a Jewish President. Yeah, right ;-))

Cuprum2 Supporting Member of TMP21 Aug 2024 1:57 a.m. PST

If we consider Nazism as an ideology of innate superiority and hatred of one nation over another, then the specific nationality does not matter. There are racists, and there are Nazis. The former hate other races, the latter – other nationalities. Call it ultranationalism – it makes no difference.
Have you heard anything about the Volyn massacre? Isn't that Nazism, in your opinion?
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Sho Boki Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Aug 2024 3:24 a.m. PST

"The Nazis are fighting on only one side of this war. There are whole brigades of them. And they don't actually hide it…"

Very true!
For instance group Wagner, founded and lead by comerade Utkin..


Or neo-nazi group Rusich with their representative face well known openly nazi Milchakov..


All Russians are by default communists-nazi-fachist-racists = RaZZists and thanks to Putin must prove the opposite in every single case.

Straw Plaiter21 Aug 2024 4:27 a.m. PST

They are not "volunteers" – they are mercenaries being paid huge wages. The American is wanted by law enforcement so he fled to russia.

The Nazi argument is so tiresome. There are more Neo -Nazi's in russia because it has a bigger population. Countries with a smaller population has less neo-Nazi's.

jedburgh21 Aug 2024 4:46 a.m. PST

Cuprum2 – You can't have pick them. The American 'volunteer' seems to have a somewhat chequered past.

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Cuprum2 Supporting Member of TMP21 Aug 2024 6:03 a.m. PST

Sho Boki, this already dead man replaces a whole brigade of Nazis? Cool!
The sabotage and assault reconnaissance group "Rusich", of which Milchakov was a member, is an amazing and mysterious unit. No one has seen him for a long time and no one knows him))) There are only rumors and legends. I am not used to believing rumors and legends – I like documents and facts. Everything else is stupid propaganda. And even if it suddenly exists, it is only a couple of dozen people. But the Nazi brigade "Azov", now renamed the 3rd assault brigade, does not require any legends and rumors. Everything is clear, distinct and in plain sight. So I am proud that for all 140 million in Russia they managed to scrape together only a few alleged Nazis)))

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Most Russian Nazis, by the way, now serve in "Azov" and "Russian Volunteer Corps". In any case, there are definitely more of them than in the mythical "Rusich".

Straw Plaiter, I don't give a damn about the Nazis. The war is going on for a completely different reason. But all the Nazis must die – be they Russian, Ukrainian, or anyone else. Amen!

jedburgh, who is this chatterbox? His meaningless reasoning makes me yawn))) Maybe this American really has problems with the law – I don't know. But I know that a person can only be called a criminal by a court decision. Am I right in understanding that no one has yet recognized him as a criminal? I am surprised by the number of pedophiles among those who support Russia. Maybe this is an easy American way to deal with dissenters? If you can easily slander your own president, then what will stop you from slandering an "ordinary" citizen?

Cuprum2 Supporting Member of TMP21 Aug 2024 7:41 a.m. PST

Vladimir Putin offers welcome foreigners fleeing the ideology of "destructive neo-liberal" of the West:

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Translation:

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smithsco21 Aug 2024 8:32 a.m. PST

Poor Russian commanders isn't media propaganda. Just looked at the initial Kiev campaign in this war. Also historically, the good commanders are the exception not the rule man.

Cuprum2 Supporting Member of TMP21 Aug 2024 8:47 a.m. PST

At that time, a full-fledged war was not meant. Back then, a special operation to change power was implied, with the neutrality of the main part of the Ukrainian army and political support for the Ukrainian opposition. Russian intelligence then screwed up completely, as did Russian politics. The army operation was planned quite decently – but on erroneous initial data.
Ukraine had several successful operations at the beginning, then an unsuccessful offensive and a whole year of slow retreat under Russian pressure. It is too early to sum up the results of the current battle in the Kursk region. But now Ukraine's last combat-ready reserves are burning there. If the front in the South collapses, Ukraine will lose the war.

smithsco21 Aug 2024 9:04 a.m. PST

Ummm…saying that operation was well planned is like saying Hitler has a decent plan to invade Russia. Russian commanders thought their troops could do what Americans did against Iraq in 2003. Ukraine spent almost a decade having troops trained by NATO. Unrealistic evaluation of your capabilities and enemy capabilities is a hallmark of poor military commanders. Russia has never been militarily precise. They're a blunt instrument. There's nothing wrong with that. But using a hammer as a scalpel is moronic. Thus the generals who do so are poor generals.

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian21 Aug 2024 9:53 a.m. PST

I know one USAF chap had pled guilty to child porn and was awaiting sentencing when he defected to Russia and joined. His call sign in the Russian army is "Boston".

Since the Russians accept pretty much anyone with bipedal symmetry, psychological dysfunction and a felony record, perhaps the US can export our pedophiles to a place where they are both accepted and expended?

Midlander6521 Aug 2024 12:07 p.m. PST

I always feel torn by Cuprum's posts, between disgust at him denying / justifying and glorifying Russia's crimes and admiration for his resilience and determination to keep on going as though he expects anyone to actually believe such nonsense.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP21 Aug 2024 1:04 p.m. PST

Most of those volunteers will never see home again. Save for maybe in a body bag …

Frankly I don't think there would ever be enough volunteers to fill Russia's depleted ranks …

Cuprum2 Supporting Member of TMP21 Aug 2024 8:31 p.m. PST

McKinstry, well, actually, these people served in your army for many years. This is very alarming.

Midlander65, I don't care whether you believe what I say or not. I'm just conveying my point of view to you. If you are not interested in it, you can just not read)))

Legion 4, so who is catching their people on the streets, like animals, to send them to the trenches? Russians? Ukrainians?
Did you know that almost every night in Ukraine people burn the cars of people catchers? There are already hundreds of cases of popular resistance to Zelensky's dictatorship:

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Straw Plaiter22 Aug 2024 1:59 a.m. PST

Agreed Midlander65. It explains why Putin's 3 day war has lasted 909 days.

Cuprum2 Supporting Member of TMP22 Aug 2024 2:32 a.m. PST

Putin did not expect that the war would have to be waged against the military potential of the entire united West and under unprecedented sanctions. Given these conditions, his successes are impressive.

Sho Boki Sponsoring Member of TMP22 Aug 2024 2:35 a.m. PST

"who is catching their people on the streets, like animals, to send them to the trenches? Russians?"

Short answer is – yes. From very beginnig.
But after a couple of years of war Ukrainians are forced to do the same.
Now they complete even their own "Wagner group" of convicted criminals.
The devil is still cast out with Pelzebul.

Sho Boki Sponsoring Member of TMP22 Aug 2024 2:41 a.m. PST

"Given these conditions, his successes are impressive."

Does he have any successes? Really?
He has the Americans to thank for holding the Ukrainians back.

Straw Plaiter22 Aug 2024 4:12 a.m. PST

Putin was not facing "the military potential of the entire united West and under unprecedented sanctions" for those 3 days.

RIA Novosti news agency accidentally published an article, tagged with a publication date of 8AM on February 26 2022, already celebrating a Russian victory and collapse of the Ukrainian state within an anticipated two days.

The main theme of the article is that the "operation" is a defeat for the West's project to defeat Russia. That Putin seized the moment to return Ukraine to its historic Slavic union with Russia and Belarus. Potential NATO candidacy is seen as a symptom of the problem, not the main cause.

The author calls this a "new era." "Russia is restoring its historic unity: the tragedy of 1991, that terrible catastrophe of our history, that unnatural aberration, has been overcome."

909 days later…..

Midlander6522 Aug 2024 5:26 a.m. PST

Cuprum:
"Putin did not expect that the war would have to be waged against the military potential of the entire united West and under unprecedented sanctions. Given these conditions, his successes are impressive."

The UK is allocating around 0.1% of GDP to supporting Ukraine's defence. Considerably less than we spend on crisps (potato chips). I don't think you understand what the military and economic potential of the West is.

Grattan54 Supporting Member of TMP22 Aug 2024 9:38 a.m. PST

The Ukrainian army had stopped the Russian cold before NATO and the US could get that heavily involved. Face facts, Russia got their butts kicked. Now they are trying to use numbers to wear the Ukrainians down. Much like they did against Finland, where they also got their butts kicked when they invaded.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP22 Aug 2024 10:17 a.m. PST

so who is catching their people on the streets, like animals, to send them to the trenches? Russians? Ukrainians?
Did you know that almost every night in Ukraine people burn the cars of people catchers? There are already hundreds of cases of popular resistance to Zelensky's dictatorship:
Wow ! I did not know that ! 😮

He has the Americans to thank for holding the Ukrainians back.
Yes and it drives me crazy that the US leadership has been dragging its feet since Day 1. Their dogma is being risk adverse and fearing escalation. And a lot more people on all sides are dead or maimed because of it.

Dn Jackson Supporting Member of TMP22 Aug 2024 2:29 p.m. PST

"This is only in Western and Ukrainian propaganda. In reality, the competence of the command of both sides is quite comparable."

Yes, and the Ukrainians running rampant inside Russia prove it!

"If we consider Nazism as an ideology of innate superiority and hatred of one nation over another, then the specific nationality does not matter."

Translation: If we consider Nazism to be something that it's not, then Ukrainians are Nazis! The funny part is that Cuprum's definition of Nazi perfectly fits today's Russia.

"At that time, a full-fledged war was not meant."

Too true, you guys thought you had a helpless population, instead you had a tiger by the tail.

"The army operation was planned quite decently – but on erroneous initial data."

Yes, the piles of Russian bodies prove it.

"If the front in the South collapses, Ukraine will lose the war."

Yes! We've always been at war with East Asia!

Impressive levels of self-delusion on display.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP22 Aug 2024 2:40 p.m. PST

Dn Jackson + 1


Armand

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian22 Aug 2024 4:23 p.m. PST

Russia should get credit for allowing us to rid ourselves of some true vermin.

Thank you Vlad the Shirtless for removing Steven Seagal and Edward Snowden from our shores.

By the way, no take backs.

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