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Nick Stern Supporting Member of TMP14 Aug 2024 2:51 p.m. PST

I have some Perry Zulu War miniatures and I want to add spikes to their sun helmets.Easiest way would be to drill a hole and glue in the tip of a pin, I know. But I'd like to get that subtle flare and indentation you see on real helmet spikes. Trying to model it in epoxy seems too fiddly and flimsy. Any suggestions?

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP14 Aug 2024 3:02 p.m. PST

Snip the ends off toothpicks and glue the to the helmet pointy side up.

Col Durnford Supporting Member of TMP14 Aug 2024 3:12 p.m. PST

What I did was the drill for placement. I just used a piano wire for the spike.

Personal logo Wolfshanza Supporting Member of TMP14 Aug 2024 10:19 p.m. PST

Think using toothpicks would allow you to shape them with needle files ? Just a thought ?

Personal logo piper909 Supporting Member of TMP14 Aug 2024 11:15 p.m. PST

Toothpick cuttings sounds right to me!

0ldYeller15 Aug 2024 8:26 a.m. PST

I used tooth picks on some 1/72 HAT Napoleonic Russian Cuirassiers to make Prussian 1870 Cuirassiers. Seemed to work.

Glengarry5 Supporting Member of TMP15 Aug 2024 2:33 p.m. PST

Consider buying a box of Perry Franco-Prussian War Prussian Infantry or British Zulu War Infantry (home service helmets) plastics, cut and glue their spikes.

Mad Guru16 Aug 2024 2:56 a.m. PST

Nick!!!! Back in the 28mm game I see???

Lots of good advice already, but I can't help myself, so here goes…

If you want to do multiple figures and have them look good and deliver on the "subtle flare and indentation," I think Glengarry5 has the right idea with cutting the spikes off of spare proper helmets. Another possibility would be sourcing spare weapon packs with spear-points that may accomplish the same goal.

I'm not sure if your Perry Zulu War Brits are metal or plastic, since they make both, and I don't know you got them, so even if they're plastic maybe you didn't have the option of putting the Home Service helmets on their heads. I recommend sourcing add-on helmet spikes made from the same material as the figures, mostly for gluing purposes. I've had best results customizing metal figures with metal spare parts and the occasional plastic figure with plastic spare parts.

On the other hand… if your figures are metal, the most affordable way to get your hands on really high quality spikes will probably be the plastic Perry ones Glengarry5 recommends, and they may work just fine. You may be able to source leftover Home Service Helmet heads from the mass of Zulu War gamers who don't use them. My guess is that slow drying Super Glue -- like "Slo Zap" -- would be the way to go for gluing plastic spikes to metal helmets, after drilling ever-so-slight holes to set them in, BUT….

…IF you're really ambitious, you may want to try using an X-Acto knife to slice off not just the spike but also the spike base AKA bracing bars. The Perry plastic Home Service helmets feature them and -- as seen in this Close-Up -- they look pretty cool:

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If you can cut off the bracing bars together with the spike, you won't have to dril any holes, and once glued onto the helmets they should be incredibly solid with a better, more reliable join than if you were gluing on just the spike itself -- and virtually zero chance of ever coming loose, no matter how many gamers at your club and convention games may pick them up by the helmet to move them!

Last thing I'll add is if you go with the toothpick approach, I suggest using some kind of "sealer" to strengthen the wood before you prime and paint the completed figures.

I would test a few different possibilities on one figure each to find the most effective one before doing the full unit. I would try super glue… a light-as-possible coat of epoxy… maybe wood hardener (though the toothpick ends may be too small for it to really add much strength -- or not, I just don't know)… and finally simple, easy Matte Mod Podge.

I've used all those materials to successfully strengthen wood parts on various different models, but never a single wood part as tiny as the ones you will be using them on if you go with toothpick tips.

Whatever you do, I'm sure it will be a success -- and I hope to see the results on a tabletop one day!

Murvihill16 Aug 2024 4:27 a.m. PST

My first thought was to put the pointy end of the needle up, and to get a bead to slide down next to the helmet. I expect one of appropriate size could be found.

Col Durnford Supporting Member of TMP16 Aug 2024 11:05 a.m. PST

If you are going to cut spikes off other figure heads, just doing a whole head replacement would be much easier. Add to that the head facing would make the figure more unique.

It's amazing how much the change of head facing can make two figures look so very different.

I did this with RalPartha Natal Mounted Police for
Foot figures.

Mad Guru16 Aug 2024 3:30 p.m. PST

Col Durnford, having done many head-swaps as well as headgear replacements over the years, I absolutely agree -- EXCEPT… the Perry plastic colonial range is noticeably leaner than their metal colonial range, so I'm afraid putting a plastic British colonial Perry head on a metal British colonial Perry body would result in a pretty bad look -- kinda like a less extreme version of the explorer with the shrunken head in Beetlejuice.

But if Nick's Perry Zulu War Brits ARE plastic… then that is the definitive solution.

Personal logo Wolfshanza Supporting Member of TMP16 Aug 2024 10:14 p.m. PST

Nick, if you need Perry plastic spike head helmets from the Brit Zulu set, ah have some. never used mine but ah'm a packrat <lol>

Nick Stern Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2024 8:03 a.m. PST

Thank you for all the great suggestions! Full disclosure, the figures I am working on are for the 1885 North-West Rebellion in what is now Saskatchewan, North-West Mounted Police. Fortunately, the Canadian Militia uniforms are almost exact copies of British Army uniforms of the time. Headgear included sun helmets, with and without spikes, home service helmets, and glengarry bonnets. The NWMP apparently hated the full dress spiked sun helmet and also hated the undress pillbox cap, preferring the unofficial slouch hat. I aim to outfit my NWMP in a variety of head gear.

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