"Does anyone know the internal organization ?" Topic

Hello everyone

Does anyone know the internal organization of the British, French, Russian, Sardinian and Turkish infantry, cavalry and artillery companies?

Crimean War, presumably?

Hi EEE Ya, do yourself a favor and run down a copy of McClellan's (yes THAT McClellan) The Armies of Europe.
Little Mac was one of the US official observers in the Crimea and his book is valuable.

@rmaker
I'm drowning in books, for example I have the one by J.W.Brown but it doesn't go lower than the battalion for the infantry and the regiment for the cavalry.

I found some available but what's in it?

Those books covering the era by two decades. They were part of the West Point series. Great series. They were distributed to regional Federal Book Depositories. They last volumes that I got was through the Inter-library loan program.

@TimePortal
I need another source of documentation.

Try this for Russians

link

I thought I had already sent you this link in an earlier post.

Surely you can find French info from local sources.

Turks are more difficult as their internal organisation is largely administrative, not tactical.

@GildasFacit
Inside we find the internal organization of the British, French, Russian, Sardinian and Turkish infantry, cavalry and artillery companies?

the information I am looking for is the internal organization of small units.

For example I now know that a British infantry company ideally had 100 Other Ranks, two drummers, five sergeants and three officers (a captain, a lieutenant and a second lieutenant.).

But what about the buggles, where did they go?

There were drummers in the British light infantry but not in the Rifles and there were buggles in the British light infantry but not in the British line infantry?

And for the guards and the highlanders?

And the British cavalry and artillery?

I am looking for this type of documentation for all other belligerents – Infantry – Cavalry and Artillery.

No Pascal, I said 'for the Russians'.

Most armies of the time had no fixed organisation below company level. What there was was more administrative than tactical – to do with billeting, rations & other logistics.

Junior officers & NCOs can give you clues as to how the company may have been divided. Two Lt – half company & 4 Sgt – quarter company.

@GildasFacit
Most armies of the time did not have a fixed organization below the company level?

Below the company level?

That's good, I'm talking about companies.

Junior officers and NCOs can give you clues on how the company could be divided, yes, provided you know how many there were…

The Armies of the World, 1855 by Engles has a section on Turkey. Regular Nizzam and red if units followed the organization of Europe. Infantry and artillery followed Prussian organization. Infantry and Cavalry followed French organization. Infantry companies were eight per battalion with 100 men each but Asiatic regions rarely reached full strength.
Cavalry regiments had four squadrons of 151 men authorized but seldom reached full strength
Artillery regiment had six horse and nine foot batteries with four guns each.

A Corps was supplemented by irregulars with the type and number depending on region.

@TimePortal
Thanks, but I know that now and it's not what I'm looking for anymore.

Now it's the internal organization of the small units – the companies of all the arms – that interests me.

By dint of searching I found a lot of them, but it would be too long to copy here…