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doc mcb08 Jul 2024 2:15 a.m. PST

This is merry indeed, if perhaps a bit pedantic and a little condescending. But it does do a good job of untangling history and myth, to the extent we WANT them untangled.

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Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP08 Jul 2024 2:42 a.m. PST

It doesn't sound much like the George Washington I read about, and the situation they were in after the loss of New York was dire indeed.
However, it COULD be true, and it makes the great man seem more human, so why not accept it if you want to?

doc mcb08 Jul 2024 2:05 p.m. PST

RR, surely. Sometimes the myth contains more truth than the history.

And right from the first, Herodotus and Thucydides made up conversations and speeches.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP08 Jul 2024 4:16 p.m. PST

I have myself been quoted as using vulgarities when I did not. A lot of verbal quotes are paraphrases.

In this case, though, I'm going with John Ford. "When the legend becomes the fact…"

doc mcb08 Jul 2024 5:35 p.m. PST

rp, yes indeed.

42flanker02 Aug 2024 11:06 p.m. PST

Good article. "Folklore is fun but history is our business and it is important to help the public understand the difference between the two and enjoy both."
A.J.P. Taylor

arthur181503 Aug 2024 3:30 a.m. PST

I believe the late Brigadier Peter Young, who taught military history at RMA Sandhurst after a distinguished military career, once opined 'Never let the facts get in the way of a good yarn.'

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