35thOVI ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 07 Jul 2024 1:16 p.m. PST |
May this be the fate of all the Iranian Navy. Subject: Iranian warship Sahand capsizes in dock after 'accident' link |
Stryderg ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 07 Jul 2024 2:00 p.m. PST |
Unfortunately, two sailors were lost. But, yeah, one less ship is a good thing. |
Hitman | 07 Jul 2024 3:24 p.m. PST |
Were they "ships of the desert"? Sorry, I just couldn't resist!! |
Tortorella ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 07 Jul 2024 5:41 p.m. PST |
Not much above water, we will not see this one for a while. I like that the cause was "water infiltration"! |
pzivh43 ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 07 Jul 2024 7:05 p.m. PST |
Somebody was not doing their bilge checks! |
HMS Exeter | 07 Jul 2024 10:26 p.m. PST |
Iran's politics shifted to the left. Sahand shifted to Port. Synchronicity. |
David Manley | 08 Jul 2024 6:15 a.m. PST |
Oops! But not totally unheard of, I'm aware of similar incidents in Canada, India, the UK and the US to name but four, so they are in good company (at least it wasn't an SSN!) |
Legion 4 ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 08 Jul 2024 7:01 a.m. PST |
Well the ship may have had help … e.g. SEALs, etc., or a number of any others nation scuba units. |
BrianW | 08 Jul 2024 9:57 a.m. PST |
That sort of incident happens frequently to Third World flagged freighters in Third World ports. I'm not convinced that outside help was necessary in this instance. |
McKinstry ![Workbencher Fezian](boards/icons/workbencher.gif) | 08 Jul 2024 2:22 p.m. PST |
It is worth remembering that Iran's two militaries (regular and IRGC) are both relatively poor in terms of actual equipment and personnel quality particularly in terms of technical competence. Add in that the least competent, most religiously fanatic branch, the IRGC, gets first crack at funding and it isn't surprising that things such as helicopter crashes and dismal shipyard outcomes occur on a fairly regular basis. The beyond dismal performance of Iranian drones and missiles in their essentially zero for three hundred plus attack on Israel should be all the proof needed that the more any nation/service/leader blusters, the results tend to vary in inverse proportion to the volume of hot air. |
Legion 4 ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 08 Jul 2024 5:55 p.m. PST |
(regular and IRGC) are both relatively poor in terms of actual equipment and personnel quality particularly in terms of technical competence. Very true … like many in that and nearby regions. We have seen their incompetence many times in the past. |
Shagnasty ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 09 Jul 2024 8:13 a.m. PST |
Couldn't happened to more deserving people, except the Russians. |
SBminisguy | 10 Jul 2024 10:41 a.m. PST |
Add in that the least competent, most religiously fanatic branch, the IRGC, gets first crack at funding Yep, because the IRGC is the Iranian equivalent of the SS who are focused primarily on regime survival and carrying out the dirty deeds of the regime. |
Legion 4 ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 11 Jul 2024 10:56 a.m. PST |
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