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hi EEE ya Supporting Member of TMP03 Jul 2024 1:17 a.m. PST

Hello everyone,

Well, as we have to take the lead and not wait until the last moment to act, while continuing to try to find 25mm MiniFigs Crimean War S Range figurines, I have to find them standards to start with for the regiments of the belligerents fighting at the battles of Alma and Balaklava.

Do you have any ideas?

khanscom03 Jul 2024 8:23 p.m. PST

If looking for information (rather than pre- printed merchandise) "Military Flags of the World 1618- 1900" offers a dozen illustrations with some additional descriptive information.

Cuprum203 Jul 2024 10:31 p.m. PST

I recommend that you look for the book Mollo "Armee russe 1853-1856". I only have one illustration from it:

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And another illustration from a 19th century Russian encyclopedia.

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hi EEE ya Supporting Member of TMP03 Jul 2024 10:37 p.m. PST

Thank you both, but no standards for figurines specific to the Crimean War in the trade???

GildasFacit Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Jul 2024 1:26 a.m. PST

You don't issue flags for a particular war, whatever was the most recent issue to a regiment would still be in use.

There are sources on the Internet in Russian and Google Translate does a passable job of translating them.

hi EEE ya Supporting Member of TMP04 Jul 2024 10:19 p.m. PST

@GildasFacit
Thank you and I keep looking.

hi EEE ya Supporting Member of TMP08 Jul 2024 1:24 a.m. PST

Good morning ,
For the moment I have only found these as flags for Crimea: link

For the British I suppose it is ok, but I am not a specialist.

For the French, the 'RF' that we see on some concern the flags of 1852 (Dictatorship of Prince President Louis-Napoléon) used until 1854 (Until 1854 ? so what models did they use in 1855 and early 1856?) and replaced by the 1854 model used from 1856 to 1862.

Unfortunately it does not There are no standards for the 1st and 4th Hussars who fought there, unlike the 6th and 9th Cuirassiers.

For the Russians I am not an expert but I know that there were no regiments of the grenadier corps in Crimea (Just like the Russian Imperial Guard or the Caucasus Corps even if there is no shortage of figurines for these corps at MiniFigs).

On the other hand, for the Turks and the Sardinians, still nothing.

Now I wonder if the standards were taken into battle and if so by which armies.

Cuprum208 Jul 2024 7:28 p.m. PST

Minsk infantry regiment formed in a column for attack in the battle of the Alma River.
Number 4 is the banner group.

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hi EEE ya Supporting Member of TMP08 Jul 2024 11:13 p.m. PST

And all Russian infantry flags were the same?

link

And they were taken into battle?

Cuprum209 Jul 2024 7:01 p.m. PST

No. The banners were of various designs. If you are interested in historical authenticity, you need to look for information on each specific regiment.

Yes, banners have always been used in major field battles.

hi EEE ya Supporting Member of TMP09 Jul 2024 10:18 p.m. PST

Yes each regiment has several standards, all identical but different from those of other regiments?

And each of the 4 battalions of a regiment each had a different standard from the other battalions of its regiment?

And the standards of the Napoleonic wars were no longer used?

Cuprum210 Jul 2024 5:49 p.m. PST

The army retained the banners of previous designs, replacing them with new ones as they wore out. So banners from the period of the Napoleonic Wars could also be used. Also, banners of previously disbanded units could be issued to newly formed regiments.
In general, there is a complete leapfrog in the issue of samples of banners used. It is necessary to look for information on each specific regiment.

hi EEE ya Supporting Member of TMP10 Jul 2024 10:50 p.m. PST

Search for information on each specific regiment provided they exist commercially for 25mm figures…

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