"Standards for the battles of Alma and Balaklava." Topic

Hello everyone,

Well, as we have to take the lead and not wait until the last moment to act, while continuing to try to find 25mm MiniFigs Crimean War S Range figurines, I have to find them standards to start with for the regiments of the belligerents fighting at the battles of Alma and Balaklava.

Do you have any ideas?

If looking for information (rather than pre- printed merchandise) "Military Flags of the World 1618- 1900" offers a dozen illustrations with some additional descriptive information.

I recommend that you look for the book Mollo "Armee russe 1853-1856". I only have one illustration from it:

And another illustration from a 19th century Russian encyclopedia.

Thank you both, but no standards for figurines specific to the Crimean War in the trade???

You don't issue flags for a particular war, whatever was the most recent issue to a regiment would still be in use.

There are sources on the Internet in Russian and Google Translate does a passable job of translating them.

@GildasFacit
Thank you and I keep looking.

Good morning ,
For the moment I have only found these as flags for Crimea: link

For the British I suppose it is ok, but I am not a specialist.

For the French, the 'RF' that we see on some concern the flags of 1852 (Dictatorship of Prince President Louis-Napoléon) used until 1854 (Until 1854 ? so what models did they use in 1855 and early 1856?) and replaced by the 1854 model used from 1856 to 1862.

Unfortunately it does not There are no standards for the 1st and 4th Hussars who fought there, unlike the 6th and 9th Cuirassiers.

For the Russians I am not an expert but I know that there were no regiments of the grenadier corps in Crimea (Just like the Russian Imperial Guard or the Caucasus Corps even if there is no shortage of figurines for these corps at MiniFigs).

On the other hand, for the Turks and the Sardinians, still nothing.

Now I wonder if the standards were taken into battle and if so by which armies.

Minsk infantry regiment formed in a column for attack in the battle of the Alma River.
Number 4 is the banner group.

And all Russian infantry flags were the same?

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And they were taken into battle?

No. The banners were of various designs. If you are interested in historical authenticity, you need to look for information on each specific regiment.

Yes, banners have always been used in major field battles.

Yes each regiment has several standards, all identical but different from those of other regiments?

And each of the 4 battalions of a regiment each had a different standard from the other battalions of its regiment?

And the standards of the Napoleonic wars were no longer used?

The army retained the banners of previous designs, replacing them with new ones as they wore out. So banners from the period of the Napoleonic Wars could also be used. Also, banners of previously disbanded units could be issued to newly formed regiments.
In general, there is a complete leapfrog in the issue of samples of banners used. It is necessary to look for information on each specific regiment.

Search for information on each specific regiment provided they exist commercially for 25mm figures…

So for Adolfo Ramos
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as for Great War Miniatures
link

and GMB Designs
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all the flags of the Russian infantry regiments in Crimea were identical?

These manufacturers offer the standards of the Russian Imperial Guard and the Russian Grenadier Corps which, however, did not send any regiment to Crimea and therefore did not participate in this war.

For the cavalry that I saw on the sites of Adolfo Ramos and Flags and GMB Designs , that they distinguished the flags of the Russian cavalry in relation to the color of the buttons and the sleeves of the riders?

But in battle, Russian cavalrymen wore coats that hid their distinctive colors.

Adolfo Ramos offers several flags per battalion of the British Guards, company flags???

Do you think that in the British Royal Guard regiments there was one flag per company?

For the French army there are no regiments of chasseurs in the French army, but battalions of chasseurs à pied and none had flags because the corps ofchasseurs à pied was a subdivision of the french infantry.

This light infantry corps created by the Duke of Orléans from 1837, is recognized by the unique flag of the Chasseurs à pied, symbol of their unity and the cohesion of this elite corps.

Later, other types of chasseurs à pied would appear, such as the chasseurs alpins in the late 19th century, chasseurs cyclistes and chasseurs portés in the 20th century.

For the chasseurs à cheval, their flag (one per regiment this time) indicated "Chassuer à cheval" on their standard after the regiment number.

Apart from the three manufacturers mentioned, do you know of any others?