"Russians executing their own wounded" Topic

How you can argue with a person who compare the invation of Grenada with Ukraine…?

Casualties in the U.S. invasion of Grenada were relatively few. Among U.S. troops, 19 were killed and 116 were wounded. Cuban forces suffered perhaps 24 killed and 59 wounded. There were 21 members of the Grenadian army killed in action, while Grenadian civilian casualties numbered 24 dead and 337 wounded.

Mon Dieu!…

and also saying:

"We started the special operation in the most gentle way…"

I'm done with you Cuprum… your arguments are… incredible!.

Armand

I doubt the civilians in Bucha, Irpin or Mariupol thought the invasion "gentle"…. Or any other Ukrainian who experienced this brutal attack.

You have had great patience Tango. I stopped quite some time ago.

And of course, most obviously- we LEFT. The US did not attempt to annex Grenada.

And of course, most obviously- we LEFT. The US did not attempt to annex Grenada.

Indeed! The US didn't just invade Grenada, it responded to escalating violence after a Cuban-Soviet backed Communist coup went bad. Soft Commie Maurice Bishop, who took over in 1979 in a bloodless coup, didn't go hard core Marxist like members of the Central Committe of the Communist Party wanted and he was uncertain about turning Grenada into a Cuban-Soviet military base. So they staged a counter coup and shot him, and then purged his supporters leading to escalating violence that put American students in a medical school at risk. And then the new Communist leadership invited the Cubans and Soviets to build military bases in Grenada, and accepted a Cuban infantry battalion… ostensibly "construction workers" building "tourism facilities" -- a deep water port and a military grade airfield.

So the US decided that this couldn't stand and invaded. Toppled the Communist regime, freed Americans being held, and returned Grenada to being to a parliamentary representative democracy and member of the Commonwealth. It has remained politically stable since then.

soledad, 9LBs, SB +1/ea.

Tango, we were not talking about the losses of the parties, but about the causes of the war. If the West had not provided military support to Ukraine, the war would also have ended long ago, and there would have been an order of magnitude fewer casualties. By the way, Ukraine would have lost fewer territories than it did now (Russia recognized only the DPR and LPR at that time). The longer the war goes on, the higher the price that the losing side will have to pay – this is quite logical.

soledad all this could have been avoided by simply starting negotiations between the rebels and the loyalists ten years ago… But then Ukraine would still have remained neutral. Was anyone unhappy with this? Why do you all stubbornly justify the murder of your own citizens by the putschists? Why are you opposed to resolving issues through political means? And why are you depriving some Ukrainian citizens of defending their rights and lives against the usurpers of power?

Nine pound round, of course they left. Perhaps the reason is that there were no ethnic Americans there and a three-hundred-year history of confrontation between the two "Ukraines – the left bank and the right bank (they are also pro-Western and pro-Russian)"?

SBminisguy, you disappointed me. It turns out that the United States again intervened in the internal affairs of an independent state solely in its own interests, and did not save its own citizens… Although they proclaimed precisely the latter as their goal.

What a shame!!!…. Russian TV are showing that (the soldier who ends the life of his wounded comrade) as Ucranian soldiers…!!!

Incredible!… Cynicism and lies at their peak!

Armand

Is not that called propaganda ?

No… that's a huge lie … is not a distortion of reality… it's a incredible lie…

Armand