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yarkshire gamer | 19 Jun 2024 7:47 a.m. PST |
After the fun I had last year running a World Cup of Wargames Rules I have done the same thing this year but with Historical Wargames Miniature Manufacturers. I have had to run the competition on Facebook again as I haven't found an alternative, so apologies if you aren't on that social media. The voting for the Preliminary Round is open now on The Yarkshire Gamers Reet Big Wargames Group look below link Vote for your top 5, poll open until Sunday. Entrance is for any Wargames Manufacturer past or present, trading or not and has a Historical range of figures. Note this is for Manufacturers not ranges, so you can vote for a company but not for their Napoleonic Range and there Medieval Range etc. We've had 4,500 votes and 144 companies nominated so far. Top 16 qualify for Round 1, there are 8 seeds who will enter the competition in Rd 2, they are Perrys, Foundry, Skytrex, Elite, Peter Pig, AB, Heroics and Ros, Minifigs. Enjoy Regards Ken The Yarkshire Gamer |
JimDuncanUK | 19 Jun 2024 8:36 a.m. PST |
I could say a lot about various manufacturers but Facebook membership is a hurdle I cannot climb. |
IronDuke596 ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 19 Jun 2024 9:20 a.m. PST |
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yarkshire gamer | 19 Jun 2024 9:49 a.m. PST |
Thanks Jim and Iron Duke, why not suggest an alternative instead of being dismissive Just a thought |
Fitzovich ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 19 Jun 2024 11:45 a.m. PST |
yarkshire gamer They don't suggest an alternative because it is simply easier to complain and be negative. |
JimDuncanUK | 19 Jun 2024 12:27 p.m. PST |
Thanks Jim and Iron Duke, why not suggest an alternative instead of being dismissiveJust a thought Hey guys, don't get me wrong. If I knew of a more universal option I would have suggested one. I do have opinions on the OP but am unable to express them given a single fixed option. |
Perris0707 ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 19 Jun 2024 1:13 p.m. PST |
How about doing the poll here? |
UshCha | 19 Jun 2024 1:31 p.m. PST |
What is a manufacturer? Would 3D artists who sell/give away files count? They are after all manufacturers who license production to third parties. |
yarkshire gamer | 19 Jun 2024 2:32 p.m. PST |
hi, Perris0707, the poll has already started and i am 4,500 votes in, unfortunately it takes a bucket of my time to do so I can't run it in multiple places I'm afraid. UshCha if someone produces their own Historical Wargames Miniatures they would be eligible. If they printed someone else's figures then my ruling would be no. As its a public vote and nomination system, they would have to be nominated first and then receive enough votes to make the top 16 to progress and that just isn't going to happen, even popular 3d companies like Reconquer aren't doing very well at present. |
JimDuncanUK | 19 Jun 2024 2:47 p.m. PST |
Is it not possible to make a Facebook page publicly accessible? |
yarkshire gamer | 19 Jun 2024 5:35 p.m. PST |
Jim, as far as I know anyone can view it |
JimDuncanUK | 20 Jun 2024 2:00 a.m. PST |
Jim, as far as I know anyone can view it Yes, I got to a page with lots of entries but could not reply to any comments as you need to identify yourself with a facebook account whereas I would prefer an anonymous approach. |
yarkshire gamer | 20 Jun 2024 2:54 a.m. PST |
Jim, As I said above, I looked into this last year with the rules World Cup and just couldn't find a suitable alternative, that worked, wasn't full of spam or didn't cost me money. Some sites just couldn't cope or don't offer the ability to have large numbers of options. I'd love to have more people who aren't on Facebook involved but as yet I haven't found a viable option, I will keep looking for next year. Regards Ken |
JimDuncanUK | 20 Jun 2024 3:20 a.m. PST |
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Dye4minis ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 22 Jun 2024 9:49 p.m. PST |
What's wrong with using a service like Mail Chimp? A less expensive way is to send your vote to a website/URL/email account? 3D prints are different than the creator. Both should have a category IF the motivation is to recognize outstanding efforts to advance the hobby. I have seen 3D prints done by several folks and one can see differing quality. Begs the question as to why such a survey/vote exists or the background motivation. |
yarkshire gamer | 23 Jun 2024 3:45 a.m. PST |
Dye4minis The motivation is to have a bit of fun, I did this last year with wargames rules and had over 15,000 votes which is pretty amazing for this hobby, there's no hidden agenda. The motivation of people to vote is up to them, you can vote for a Manufacturer because they were the first figs you bought, or your favourite to paint or the most innovative in the hobby, why you vote is up to you. Why not use Mail Chimp or similar, in my experience these 3rd party sites spam people with pop ups and advertising and people are reluctant to go on them. Why not accept votes to an email account ? That's really easy, I have to count every single one ! In terms of my time that's massively more expensive, I have a day job as well and there is no way I could keep up, especially when the knock out rounds begin. I'm aware FB is not ideal for everyone and I have apologised for that, but with the number of votes cast (4,800 so far in the Preliminary Round) an alternative would have to be match or exceed that. It's simply a fun exercise and it engages a large number of people. I think the 3d print question is interesting but irrelevant at the moment in terms of the competition. There are some great companies out there but they are polling very low (less than 0.5% of the leaders) so splitting it down further is not going to change the top 16. Regards Ken The Yarkshire Gamer |
yarkshire gamer | 23 Jun 2024 3:47 a.m. PST |
There are just over 5 hours left to vote in the Preliminary Round so to avoid asking "why aren't my favourite company in the knock out rounds" get voting for them. Regards Ken The Yarkshire Gamer |
yarkshire gamer | 23 Jun 2024 1:35 p.m. PST |
Here are the results of the preliminary round of The World Cup of Historical Wargames Miniatures The Companies below will form pot1 and will form the 8 "home" teams in Round 1 1. Victrix Miniatures 315 2. Empress Miniatures 305 3. Pendraken Miniatures 206 4. Warlord Games 205 5. Baccus6mm 171 6, Footsore Miniatures & Games 170 7. The Plastic Soldier Company 168 8. The Assault Group 149 Pot 2 will contain the following Companies who will be the away teams in Round 1 9. Front Rank 148 10. Bad Squiddo 146 11. Gripping Beast 144 12. Old Glory 107 13. Steel Fist Miniatures 104 14. Battlefront 104 15. Bloody Miniatures 99 16. Wargames Atlantic 90 The winners of the 8 Ties will progress to Round 2 where they will meet the seeds shown in the bracket below, after that the ties will follow the chart as below. Each match will be voted for on FB and each vote will last 72 hours. The draw for the rounds will take place during the recording for the Brews in the Binyard Podcast on the evening of 24th Jun. For those who are interested here are the remaining manufacturers who missed out 17. Aventine 85 18. Eureka 78 19. Forged in Battle 76 20. Crusader 75 21. Artizan 74 22. Early War Miniatures 68 23. Claymore Castings 66 24. Xyston Miniatures and 1st Corps 60 26. Calpe 55 27 DIxon Miniatures 53 28. Gringo 40s & Essex 52 30. Piano Wargames 51 31. Flags of War 50 32. Offensive Miniatures 48 33. Airfix 43 34. May 40 40 35. GHQ 36. Bicorne Miniatures 35 37. Copplestone Castings and North Star 34 39. Rubicon 33 40. Irregular Miniatures 31 41. Adler Miniatures 30 42. Andeluvian and Hinchcliffe Miniatures 27 44. Ebor Miniatures and Galloping Major 26 46. Battle Honours and Fireforge Miniatures 23 48. Elhiem Miniatures 22 49. Connoisseur, Navwar and Museum Miniatures 21 52. Iron Duke, Langton and Kallistra 20 55. Great Escape Games and Tumbling Dice 18 57. Khurasan Miniatures 17 58. Brigade Games 16 59. 1898 Minaturas 15 60. Matchbox and Pulp Figures 13 62. Mike's Models, Trent and Redoubt Miniatures 12 65. Alternative Armies and Italeri 11 67. Bavaria Miniatures 10 68. Fizzers Metal Men, Eagle Figures, Athena Miniatures, Revell, Zvenda, Black Tree Design, Reconquer 9 75. Crann Tara, Scotia Grendel, Red3 Miniatures, Newline Designs, Frei Korps 15, 8 80. Gladiator, Boot Hill, HaT, Baueda, SHQ 7 85. Black Hussar, Simons Soldiers, Fife and Drum, Strelets, Great War Miniatures, Legio Heroica, Warfare Miniatures 6 92. Caesar, Raventhorpe, Tin Soldier, Lancashire, Grubby Tanks 5 97. Curtneys, Renegade, FAA, Brittania, Steve Barber, Naismith, Companion Miniatures, Franznap Miniatures, Spencer Smith, A&A, Xan Miniatures, Corvus Miniatures 4 110. Minden, Davco, Mirliton, Liberation, Drews Militia, Matchlock, Table Top Games, Linera A, Polly Oliver, Avanpost, Garrison 3 121. Tanatus, Lurkio Figures, Checkpoint, Under Fire, Jacobite, WTJ, Agema, Lancer, Hinton Hunt, Wee Wolf Miniatures, V&V 2 132. Acorn Miniatures, Shako 64, Keelman, Wargamer, Warrior, Heer46, Thoroughbred, Brown Water Navy, Scarab, Revier, Alternative Miniatures 1 143. Fixed Bayonets, Scheltrum, Pandyman, Black Sheep, Thistle and Rose, Tundraworks, Oddizal Osmy, Blue Moon, Petes Flags Thank you to everyone who took part in the first part of this World Cup, a total of 4748 votes cast so far. |
yarkshire gamer | 28 Jun 2024 4:34 a.m. PST |
The draw for the first round proper has been done and is on the Utubes, voting starts next Monday link |
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