"World Cup of Historical Wargames Miniature Manufacturers" Topic

After the fun I had last year running a World Cup of Wargames Rules I have done the same thing this year but with Historical Wargames Miniature Manufacturers.

I have had to run the competition on Facebook again as I haven't found an alternative, so apologies if you aren't on that social media.

The voting for the Preliminary Round is open now on The Yarkshire Gamers Reet Big Wargames Group look below

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Vote for your top 5, poll open until Sunday.

Entrance is for any Wargames Manufacturer past or present, trading or not and has a Historical range of figures.

Note this is for Manufacturers not ranges, so you can vote for a company but not for their Napoleonic Range and there Medieval Range etc.

We've had 4,500 votes and 144 companies nominated so far.

Top 16 qualify for Round 1, there are 8 seeds who will enter the competition in Rd 2, they are Perrys, Foundry, Skytrex, Elite, Peter Pig, AB, Heroics and Ros, Minifigs.

Enjoy

Regards Ken
The Yarkshire Gamer

I could say a lot about various manufacturers but Facebook membership is a hurdle I cannot climb.

Nor I.

Thanks Jim and Iron Duke, why not suggest an alternative instead of being dismissive

Just a thought

yarkshire gamer They don't suggest an alternative because it is simply easier to complain and be negative.

Thanks Jim and Iron Duke, why not suggest an alternative instead of being dismissive

Just a thought

Hey guys, don't get me wrong. If I knew of a more universal option I would have suggested one. I do have opinions on the OP but am unable to express them given a single fixed option.

How about doing the poll here?

What is a manufacturer? Would 3D artists who sell/give away files count? They are after all manufacturers who license production to third parties.

hi,

Perris0707, the poll has already started and i am 4,500 votes in, unfortunately it takes a bucket of my time to do so I can't run it in multiple places I'm afraid.

UshCha if someone produces their own Historical Wargames Miniatures they would be eligible. If they printed someone else's figures then my ruling would be no.

As its a public vote and nomination system, they would have to be nominated first and then receive enough votes to make the top 16 to progress and that just isn't going to happen, even popular 3d companies like Reconquer aren't doing very well at present.

Is it not possible to make a Facebook page publicly accessible?

Jim, as far as I know anyone can view it

Jim, as far as I know anyone can view it

Yes, I got to a page with lots of entries but could not reply to any comments as you need to identify yourself with a facebook account whereas I would prefer an anonymous approach.

Jim,

As I said above, I looked into this last year with the rules World Cup and just couldn't find a suitable alternative, that worked, wasn't full of spam or didn't cost me money.

Some sites just couldn't cope or don't offer the ability to have large numbers of options.

I'd love to have more people who aren't on Facebook involved but as yet I haven't found a viable option, I will keep looking for next year.

Regards Ken

Thanks

What's wrong with using a service like Mail Chimp? A less expensive way is to send your vote to a website/URL/email account?

3D prints are different than the creator. Both should have a category IF the motivation is to recognize outstanding efforts to advance the hobby. I have seen 3D prints done by several folks and one can see differing quality. Begs the question as to why such a survey/vote exists or the background motivation.

Dye4minis

The motivation is to have a bit of fun, I did this last year with wargames rules and had over 15,000 votes which is pretty amazing for this hobby, there's no hidden agenda.

The motivation of people to vote is up to them, you can vote for a Manufacturer because they were the first figs you bought, or your favourite to paint or the most innovative in the hobby, why you vote is up to you.

Why not use Mail Chimp or similar, in my experience these 3rd party sites spam people with pop ups and advertising and people are reluctant to go on them.

Why not accept votes to an email account ? That's really easy, I have to count every single one ! In terms of my time that's massively more expensive, I have a day job as well and there is no way I could keep up, especially when the knock out rounds begin.

I'm aware FB is not ideal for everyone and I have apologised for that, but with the number of votes cast (4,800 so far in the Preliminary Round) an alternative would have to be match or exceed that.

It's simply a fun exercise and it engages a large number of people.

I think the 3d print question is interesting but irrelevant at the moment in terms of the competition. There are some great companies out there but they are polling very low (less than 0.5% of the leaders) so splitting it down further is not going to change the top 16.

Regards Ken
The Yarkshire Gamer

There are just over 5 hours left to vote in the Preliminary Round so to avoid asking "why aren't my favourite company in the knock out rounds" get voting for them.

Regards Ken
The Yarkshire Gamer

Here are the results of the preliminary round of The World Cup of Historical Wargames Miniatures

The Companies below will form pot1 and will form the 8 "home" teams in Round 1

1. Victrix Miniatures 315
2. Empress Miniatures 305
3. Pendraken Miniatures 206
4. Warlord Games 205
5. Baccus6mm 171
6, Footsore Miniatures & Games 170
7. The Plastic Soldier Company 168
8. The Assault Group 149

Pot 2 will contain the following Companies who will be the away teams in Round 1

9. Front Rank 148
10. Bad Squiddo 146
11. Gripping Beast 144
12. Old Glory 107
13. Steel Fist Miniatures 104
14. Battlefront 104
15. Bloody Miniatures 99
16. Wargames Atlantic 90

The winners of the 8 Ties will progress to Round 2 where they will meet the seeds shown in the bracket below, after that the ties will follow the chart as below.

Each match will be voted for on FB and each vote will last 72 hours.

The draw for the rounds will take place during the recording for the Brews in the Binyard Podcast on the evening of 24th Jun.

For those who are interested here are the remaining manufacturers who missed out

17. Aventine 85
18. Eureka 78
19. Forged in Battle 76
20. Crusader 75
21. Artizan 74
22. Early War Miniatures 68
23. Claymore Castings 66
24. Xyston Miniatures and 1st Corps 60
26. Calpe 55
27 DIxon Miniatures 53
28. Gringo 40s & Essex 52
30. Piano Wargames 51
31. Flags of War 50
32. Offensive Miniatures 48
33. Airfix 43
34. May 40 40
35. GHQ
36. Bicorne Miniatures 35
37. Copplestone Castings and North Star 34
39. Rubicon 33
40. Irregular Miniatures 31
41. Adler Miniatures 30
42. Andeluvian and Hinchcliffe Miniatures 27
44. Ebor Miniatures and Galloping Major 26
46. Battle Honours and Fireforge Miniatures 23
48. Elhiem Miniatures 22
49. Connoisseur, Navwar and Museum Miniatures 21
52. Iron Duke, Langton and Kallistra 20
55. Great Escape Games and Tumbling Dice 18
57. Khurasan Miniatures 17
58. Brigade Games 16
59. 1898 Minaturas 15
60. Matchbox and Pulp Figures 13
62. Mike's Models, Trent and Redoubt Miniatures 12
65. Alternative Armies and Italeri 11
67. Bavaria Miniatures 10
68. Fizzers Metal Men, Eagle Figures, Athena Miniatures, Revell, Zvenda, Black Tree Design, Reconquer 9
75. Crann Tara, Scotia Grendel, Red3 Miniatures, Newline Designs, Frei Korps 15, 8
80. Gladiator, Boot Hill, HaT, Baueda, SHQ 7
85. Black Hussar, Simons Soldiers, Fife and Drum, Strelets, Great War Miniatures, Legio Heroica, Warfare Miniatures 6
92. Caesar, Raventhorpe, Tin Soldier, Lancashire, Grubby Tanks 5
97. Curtneys, Renegade, FAA, Brittania, Steve Barber, Naismith, Companion Miniatures, Franznap Miniatures, Spencer Smith, A&A, Xan Miniatures, Corvus Miniatures 4
110. Minden, Davco, Mirliton, Liberation, Drews Militia, Matchlock, Table Top Games, Linera A, Polly Oliver, Avanpost, Garrison 3
121. Tanatus, Lurkio Figures, Checkpoint, Under Fire, Jacobite, WTJ, Agema, Lancer, Hinton Hunt, Wee Wolf Miniatures, V&V 2
132. Acorn Miniatures, Shako 64, Keelman, Wargamer, Warrior, Heer46, Thoroughbred, Brown Water Navy, Scarab, Revier, Alternative Miniatures 1
143. Fixed Bayonets, Scheltrum, Pandyman, Black Sheep, Thistle and Rose, Tundraworks, Oddizal Osmy, Blue Moon, Petes Flags

Thank you to everyone who took part in the first part of this World Cup, a total of 4748 votes cast so far.

The draw for the first round proper has been done and is on the Utubes, voting starts next Monday

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