DukeWacoan ![Workbencher Fezian](boards/icons/workbencher.gif) | 16 Jun 2024 9:46 a.m. PST |
I want to dust off my Crusades figs for a large battle. Last time I played, I used Shattered Lances 2d. link Wish those rules had continued to be supported, as they seem a set that attempts to best target Crusades and the unique aspects particularly of the Arab horse and their methods of fighting. I have a bunch of other Ancients and Medieval sets, but none seem to look as closely at these types, opting instead for a goal of being able to address larger time periods and more general groups of unit types. First, anyone know of any updates to Shattered Lances 2d? Second, anything close to Shattered Lances in terms of its focus on Crusades. My armies are mainly 1st Crusades. |
TimePortal | 16 Jun 2024 10:18 a.m. PST |
Sorry but I converted the 1970s Standard games Medival System, Cry Havoc and Outreamer. I loved the map variety. |
Perris0707 ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 16 Jun 2024 11:08 a.m. PST |
I participated in a Crusades game at Historicon a few years ago that used Tactica rules and it was a lot of fun. It definitely qualified as a "large battle". |
advocate ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 16 Jun 2024 12:12 p.m. PST |
I get that the cool kids might not be playing Shattered Lances, but if it's a good game then what support is required? Build up a FAQ if required, and adapt scenarios from other rules. |
DukeWacoan ![Workbencher Fezian](boards/icons/workbencher.gif) | 16 Jun 2024 5:40 p.m. PST |
I actually don't know anyone who plays Medieval or Crusades battle-level. I do Wars of the Roses with Might of Arms, but it doesn't really work Crusades. |
Dexter Ward | 17 Jun 2024 1:33 a.m. PST |
Dues Vult is a crusade specific set, but I don't know how it compares to Shattered Lances |
The Last Conformist | 17 Jun 2024 3:54 a.m. PST |
Soldiers of God is even more focused on the Crusades to the Levant than Shattered Lances, so might be something to check out. I haven't played it myself, so can't advice you further on suitability. Not sure why you wouldn't simply pick up Shattered Lances again, though? Did you feel it had some bugs that needed fixing? |
DukeWacoan ![Workbencher Fezian](boards/icons/workbencher.gif) | 17 Jun 2024 5:02 p.m. PST |
I played SL quite a bit and made my own version of charts and cheat sheets. I felt like I was doing some things wrong and could get any response. That's been 10 years ago probably. I've also consudered and looked at Ironbow II rules from The Perfect Captain but not played them |
Marcus Brutus | 03 Jul 2024 1:22 p.m. PST |
I played SL as well. Some really interesting ideas but like many sets body of rules was incomplete. I also found that in practice the system didn't work very well. |