Editor in Chief Bill ![Workbencher Fezian](boards/icons/workbencher.gif) | 30 May 2024 3:23 p.m. PST |
President Joe Biden has lifted restrictions on Ukraine using weapons supplied by the United States against targets on Russian territory, but only to defend the under-fire Kharkiv region, U.S. officials said Thursday… Moscow Times: link |
Editor in Chief Bill ![Workbencher Fezian](boards/icons/workbencher.gif) | 30 May 2024 3:26 p.m. PST |
Biden secretly allows Ukraine to strike Russian territory with US weaponsUkrainian Pravda: link |
Dn Jackson ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 30 May 2024 4:14 p.m. PST |
Should have been done day 1. |
Grattan54 ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 30 May 2024 6:24 p.m. PST |
Good. Yes, it should have been done much earlier. |
Editor in Chief Bill ![Workbencher Fezian](boards/icons/workbencher.gif) | 30 May 2024 6:30 p.m. PST |
Note this is only for counter-fire, and only in Kharkiv region. |
Bunkermeister ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 30 May 2024 7:35 p.m. PST |
Rules of engagement should read, kill the enemy, win the war. Otherwise go home. Bunkermeister |
Midlander65 | 30 May 2024 10:28 p.m. PST |
Given the relatively short range and scarcity of Stormshadow/SCALP, ATACMS and Patriot, I really can't see what the problem is with letting the Ukrainians do what they want with them. They are too scarce to waste on civilian targets and too short ranged to start bombarding the Kremlin. |
Legion 4 ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 31 May 2024 8:31 a.m. PST |
The US tried to tell the IDF how to fight their war with Hamas. Now the US puts restrictions on Ukraine using US ATACM long range missiles …. Reminds me of not bombing Hanoi, until later in the water. The US Gov't told the military how to fight a war. What if e.g. the US air offensive "Rolling Thunder" hit Hanoi, etc. in '67 ? The more restrictions[with some exceptions] will only make the war last longer. And more of your people will die … |
Herkybird ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 31 May 2024 2:33 p.m. PST |
The one advantage dictators like Putin have is complete control over their government and military. Democracies frequently fight with one hand tied behind their back due to political worries about repercussions, or weakening the ruler's position. The Vietnam comparison to me is perfectly valid. As others have said, we should support Ukraine as though we are being attacked, with absolute commitment. Its cheaper in the long run and less people die. |
Legion 4 ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 31 May 2024 4:43 p.m. PST |
Errata: "until later in the water." … That should read "in the war" … DOH ! |