Editor in Chief Bill ![Workbencher Fezian](boards/icons/workbencher.gif) | 28 May 2024 4:18 a.m. PST |
China has showcased its machine gun-wielding robot dogs during a significant 15-day military exercise in Cambodia. The event, which marked the largest-ever joint drill between the two nations, featured a host of advanced unmanned vehicles, with the robotic dogs taking center stage. The exercise, known as "Golden Dragon," involved approximately 2,000 troops, including 760 Chinese soldiers, and took place in central Kampong Chhnang Province and off the coast of Preah Sihanouk Province… ASEAN Now: link YouTube: link |
Tortorella ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 28 May 2024 4:47 a.m. PST |
Good luck with this, I hope they make millions. We have been there, done that. |
35thOVI ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 28 May 2024 6:11 a.m. PST |
Yes, primitive now. But so were all weapons initially. But with experimentation, research and money these weapons improve. Our enemies are willing to spend the money and research on AI and robotics. Can we afford not to be on top? Technology WAS our edge. |
Tortorella ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 28 May 2024 7:04 a.m. PST |
Still is by a long shot, where do you think they stole these from? State cops here ditched the robo dogs after a decent trial 6 years ago. They just could not handle certain entries. They will try again at some point. We spend an incredible amount on defense. If we could just find a way to stop the waste, we would be even farther along. The world's strongest economy, the world's number one military. China is not there yet…but must be watched closely. |
Legion 4 ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 28 May 2024 7:24 a.m. PST |
The US Military/DARPA, etc. has been working on robodogs for some time. IIRC, the USAF is trying them out as guard dogs with their Security Forces. Even the NYC LEOs had put some on the streets with their patrols. But the locals did not like them as they thought that was too … whatever … Maybe they thought the robodogs could outrun them ? Of course, if the Chicom's robodogs fail … we all know they were "made in China" … 😎 |
SBminisguy | 28 May 2024 8:21 a.m. PST |
The CCP has already deployed gun drones for population control. During the pandemic lockdowns they used flying drones and "dog drones" (stolen from Boston Dynamics) to broadcast messages and drive people back indoors. They have also demonstrated delivering armed RoboDogs via a Drone to rooftops and other areas. The armed RoboDogs can also have a facial recognition camera and operate in teams -- one Robo breeches a door, the gun-armed robo scans a person's face, etc. and signals police if they get a match, and can shoot to kill if the target doesn't exhibit signs of compliance. Minority Report is real and exists in China today. From a battlefield standpoint you can imagine robodogs as cheap assault and ambush systems. You could drop these things behind the Lines via drones and to disrupt supply and logistics, disrupt an enemy -- or terrorize a populace as the do right now. |
Tortorella ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 28 May 2024 9:09 a.m. PST |
They were a mixed bag when I saw them, some navigational entry problems. Not really worth the money for rare use tech then. And the humans were not really confident about robos ability to accurately secure a remote space. But 6 years is a long time in tech world. Per SB I would be worried about how fast and accurate they are in a gun fight. Humans would have almost no chance, it sounds like. Sounds like I have underestimated them. |
Dragon Gunner | 28 May 2024 10:43 a.m. PST |
Some possibilities… 1. Chemical weapon dispenser 2. Directional mine for a weapon like a claymore. 3. Suicide robo dog, chases down target and detonates |
TMPWargamerabbit | 28 May 2024 11:25 a.m. PST |
Send in the robot cats…… or… Set up a fire hydrant |
35thOVI ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 28 May 2024 12:11 p.m. PST |
We talk about these and yes it is all still primitive. But look at the success of the kamikaze in World War II. The Japanese started late in the war, untrained pilots, the US controlled the air and sea. But they were successful. Not decisive, but it was far too late for that. "Both the Allies and the Japanese understood the effectiveness of the kamikaze offensive in similar terms. IJNAF planners estimated that 1 in 6 (17 percent) tokko plane sorties would hit ships (IJAAF staff believed more optimistically that 1 in 3 would succeed). Drawing on AAORG analyses, the ratio of hits to sorties in the Philippines was 17.7 percent (115/650) and 9.5 percent (181/1,900) at Okinawa. These figures rose to 26 percent (171/650) and 14.5 percent (276/1,900) when damaging near misses were added in.[38] The table below tallies the outcome of all of the attempted attacks definitely identified as kamikazes on Navy and Allied ships by month in 1944–1945. A kamikaze pilot that reached the target area and successfully commenced an attack stood almost a 1 in 2 (47.4 percent) chance of hitting or damaging a ship.[39] While successful (certainly more so than orthodox air strikes), kamikaze tactics were not decisive. The Japanese resigned themselves to exploiting one remaining means of staving off utter defeat, despite the brutal cost. This willingness to sacrifice instilled a dread in their American opponents which technological superiority and resolve could not completely foreclose. The cost in casualties inflicted by the kamikazes deeply disturbed American leaders who were keenly aware that the kamikaze threat could be defeated, but not ended. This uneasiness contributed to deep concerns over the prospects of invading the Japanese home islands later in 1945. Post-war estimates credited the Japanese with more than 10,000 aircraft and the intent to commit them all to homeland defense.[40] Fortunately, this final test did not come to pass." Subject: The Most Difficult Antiaircraft Problem Yet Faced By the Fleet link Now transfer that to masses of unmanned air and sea drones. Cheap to produce and replace. More advanced than the Japanese planes. The Chinese are now producing drone carriers. You are already in their home turf if Taiwan. So land based as well. Drones have turned the war in the Ukraine, into WW1. I know our military is currently experimenting with drone counter measures including jamming, or disabling zones. Imagine being able to release masses of micro bots toward your enemy, whose sole purpose is to kill or maim (wounded require much more resources). Our advantage is technology. The Chinese can absorb man to man, much more than we can. |
TimePortal | 29 May 2024 8:56 a.m. PST |
Seems like a new security system for Chinese restaurants in USA. Lol. |
Cuprum2 | 30 May 2024 1:47 a.m. PST |
On May 3, the Russian army attacked the village of Berdychi with the help of a group of ground assault robots consisting of eight vehicles. The robots were armed with grenade launchers and machine guns. The village came under Russian control. Several drones were damaged by the defenders (or they were exposed to electronic warfare) and were later finished off by Ukrainian kamikaze drones. There were no casualties among Russian soldiers. Twelve bodies of Ukrainian soldiers were recovered from the battlefield. There is no video of the robot attack on Berdychi (most likely it was not posted on purpose for some reason). There is a video of the training of a robotic assault unit. And also footage from the Ukrainians of how they finish off immobilized drones. These drones were first tested during the assault on Avdeevka – then they were used as support weapons for assault infantry. link link |
Legion 4 ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 30 May 2024 8:18 a.m. PST |
Them Russkies are using robots now !!?!!?!? 😲😖🤯 |
Oberlindes Sol LIC ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 30 May 2024 11:37 a.m. PST |
AI running mobile weapons systems: what could possibly go wrong? Looking forward to the real ED-209. |