"WHO and his ladies" Topic

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Stumbled upon this.

Just a few plot holes.

According to the author, and their test, the following scene:

'Two scantily clad slavegirls, Monday and Thursday, sit in their adjacent cages discussing their love of cooking and cleaning the dungeon.'

Is less se*ist then:

'As the doctor chats with a male companion about how to repossess the time/matter array modulator (made it up), they walk past a well dressed woman wheeling a small suitcase from a legal office with folders of papers under her arm, a Bucher lady sharpening her knife in the window of a Bucher shop and a parking inspector lady checking a meter.'

Not sure how any of that is wrong, I'd be glued to the first one, for the articles, of course. But going by the authors method, there you are.

She mentions:

"Yes – Amy Pond, Mrs Angelo
Yes – Amy and Mrs Angelo talk when Amy and the Doctor visit her house
Yes – they talk about Amy's ‘career'"

Well, isn't Amy's 'career' as a kissogram? So that conversation is about entertaining men, hence talking about them.

But that won't fit the narrative.

Also, it says that Amy has a male chaperone who needs to be around when Amy's talking to other people, she missed that one.

Anyway it is another interesting fan endeavour, so points there.

Notice how it ends into/at the Matt Smiths run. Perhaps that's another disillusioned fan that disappeared around then. Maybe the topic isn't as important as just getting as far the Thal away from the show.

While I'm picking:

"And, in the words of Lt Columbo,"

The author quotes from a show with a male lead who's wife is never seen (in that show).

I guess things aren't really that bad after all.

The test criteria are terrible.

Since "The Doctor" is neither a man (actually an alien who is capable of changing gender), nor a named character, the analysis fails many times.

Medical drama where two smart, talented surgeons one male, one female, are discussing how to save the life of a male patient = "fail on all three counts"

"The test criteria are terrible."

Agreed.

"Since "The Doctor" is neither a man (actually an alien who is capable of changing gender), nor a named character, the analysis fails many times."

Not agreed.

Actually that statement is contradictive.

Thanks WOTAN!

The doctor is a male timelord.

Some modern crazies and their fan fiction should be taken with a pinch of salt, or just plain avoided like the plague.

If you say the doctor is not a man?????

Then you are counting a one off (I'll include the preseason shoehorning prelude, same bunch of loons.)

Thus…

The doctor is definitely a named character!

As described in the war machines, when the computer is demanding "Dr Who!"

Thanks WOTAN!

Thus the statement is contradictive and must be discarded, we'll put it with the rest of the modern tat.

PS

It's not unusual for tv shows to have occasional slits, sorry, slips that don't make any sense.

Usually they are just from a writer not reading the "Bible" for the show properly, or older episodes.

Modern Dr who doesn't have those excuses, just bad staff selection.

Eg, one episode of Seinfeld has Kramer calling baths "bathing in your own filth", in another he loves baths.

PPS

The doctor also has a Granddaughter, he calls his Granddaughter.

PPPS I believe he also calls the man from his childhood a man. Who is also a timelord if I remember planet of spiders correctly.

From the time monster:

"DOCTOR: Well, when I was a little boy, we used to live in a house that was perched halfway up the top of a mountain. And behind our house, there sat under a tree an old man, a hermit, a monk. He'd lived under this tree for half his lifetime, so they said, and he'd learned the secret of life. So, when my black day came, I went and asked him to help me."

So even the doctor called himself a boy, and the timelord a man.

Not many (ie. None) boys grow up to not be men.

But we do know that the Dr can be a woman – we've seen at least 2.

And they are not alone in that – the master became missy

It's all official and canon.

The Doctor's memory is full of holes – he managed to supress the war doctor, and he forgot about all the pre-hartnell incarnations that we now know about. And he also seems to forget that he's destined to be The Valeyard in his penultimate incarnation.

Also we know from the Seventh Doctor that he is quite capable of lying continually if it serves his purposes.

"But we do know that the Dr can be a woman – we've seen at least 2."

"he is quite capable of lying continually if it serves his purposes."

Obviously the BBC did the same thing for about 57 years.

Interesting how no time lord was ever mentioned miraculously changing s*x until all this modern real world nonsense crops up.

Again, pinch of salt, but best avoided.

As far as the master, while a stupid portrail, I don't believe he was shown regenerating into a woman. And any fan will know he can slide into someone's head. Not to hard to believe it could be any one. But it's not a proper regeneration.

Of course, that's another of those take it or leave it bits that the show is known for.

"It's all official and canon."

I don't consider that correct.

No more than the new Dune novels not written by Frank.

Or post Lucas star wars (though even Lucas SW was going sour)

But we've seen it before with shows like the Bill, when they change things and it is not appreciated and intimately fails.

Even in the US shows can't go past 6 or 7 seasons with out character changes and scripts feeding off the shows own popularity, like SG1 and X files, becoming weird parodies of themselves.

Who's just become the lowest point of all these types of things.

I hope they can it for a few years, then get McGann in for a few EPs/regeneration and take it from there, less the nonsense.

That's the beauty of McGann not regenerating, Its left open and the rubbish the BBC stuck the name on can be happily ignored.

Which is why I talk about it so much.

"he forgot about all the pre-hartnell incarnations that we now know about."

You mean "now" as in 1976, right?

Just another of those bits that are usually best forgotten outside of the individual story.

Good to see people are doing it.

And the seventh was not the first doctor to lie.

PS

Canon doesn't mean changing the rules.

It's the previously laid out rules that are canon.