Editor in Chief Bill ![Workbencher Fezian](boards/icons/workbencher.gif) | 21 May 2024 6:36 p.m. PST |
…The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors originally proposed April 30 for "Jane Fonda Day" because it occurred during "Earth Month" and would honor her climate activism. Vietnamese Americans and state lawmakers objected to that day as it commemorates the Fall of Saigon, when the U.S. officially pulled out of Vietnam, and the country fell to the communist North… Fox News: link |
Bunkermeister ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 21 May 2024 8:40 p.m. PST |
Seems the best possible day to remember her. Bunkermeister |
ZULUPAUL ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 22 May 2024 2:20 a.m. PST |
I prefer not to remember her. |
Stryderg ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 22 May 2024 5:12 a.m. PST |
That's probably why the day was initially proposed. |
Choctaw | 22 May 2024 10:34 a.m. PST |
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Bismarck | 22 May 2024 11:11 a.m. PST |
Still not fonda Hanoi Jane. |
deadhead ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 22 May 2024 11:55 a.m. PST |
Kids do dumb things, especially when in the hands of clever media manipulators (which the NVA were even then, pre Internet). She was entitled to oppose the war in VN. Young men died there to preserve that right of freedom of speech for her. But to man an AA gun was treason and she should have been tried for that, once home. She would have had the chance to offer a defence, of some kind, or an apology/retraction. The country was torn apart and the powers that be chickened out of that courthouse trial. I think (I stress "think") she has expressed regret since, but I would love to see more concrete evidence e.g massive donations to veterans' associations, or even reunion attendances and fundraising. That is an apology. To forgive is divine, but our lot are told contrition must come before absolution |
JMcCarroll | 22 May 2024 1:18 p.m. PST |
Besides the movie Barbarella. She is totally useless. |
Shagnasty ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 22 May 2024 2:23 p.m. PST |
Well said Deadhead and JMc. |
Grattan54 ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 23 May 2024 8:10 p.m. PST |
She has apologized for what she did. |
Wolfshanza ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 23 May 2024 10:19 p.m. PST |
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TimePortal | 24 May 2024 4:30 p.m. PST |
Nope not a fan of hers regardless of apology. I also do not forgive those who threw eggs at me and my unit during the Birmingham Veterans Day parade in 1972. |
piper909 ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 25 May 2024 10:33 p.m. PST |
Hmmm. Funnily enough, we were just rewatching the 70's film 'Fun with Dick and Jane" tonight, a comedy movie I first saw in about 1976 starring Jane Fonda and George Segal. I expect there's not much point in spending time on this thread, but I feel it necessary to ask why so many people are stuck in some early-70's hate mode about Jane Fonda's small-potatoes protests and the Vietnam War (that history has shown to be a horror show), when an attempted COUP of the US government and constitution in 2000 is overlooked. And might easily be attempted again. Go ahead, gripe if you want. But this selective myopia is puzzling to me. |
deadhead ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 26 May 2024 10:42 a.m. PST |
Dunno. I had shoulder length hair by 1971 (actually it almost reached the end of my rib cage) and was, and still am, a devotee of the Grateful Dead, the Jeff Airplane (which I actually preferred) and all West Coast Music. But I always believed that the kids dying in Nam (the good guys) were fighting the good fight. I still, to this day, believe in the Domino Theory and, whatever the argument about the profits generated for the military industrial complex, a stand had to be taken. I took much grief for that. Fonda could protest all she wanted. She could visit Hanoi, but it was incredibly insane to sit on an AA gun, which her minders arranged. OK, she was a dumb kid back then. That is treason. Your comment about the Capitol invasion is summat not for me to comment upon, as I am not a US citizen. But I can only say that, over the Pond, we are very apprehensive. It is like 1989 when we thought "We survived the Cold War and the Nuke Threat. That is is the end to that fear". Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose. |
Dn Jackson ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 26 May 2024 10:03 p.m. PST |
When I was 23 I was in combat. She was not a kid, she was an adult and made adult decisions. She never paid a price for those decisions. As for the 'attempted coup' in 2020. Give it a rest. It didn't happen. Not a single weapon in the crowd, the only person killed was a protestor. It was a riot not a coup. |