foxbat | 12 May 2024 6:37 a.m. PST |
3 cruisers and 6 destroyers, all but one of them were sunk during the hopeless defense of the Malay Barrier in early 1942.
The De Ruyter, Doorman's flagship
The Java
GHQ has 2 variants of the Dutch Admiralen class. 1st variant
2nd variant
Lastly, the Tromp, the only light cruiser that escaped destruction as it was undergoing repairs at the time of the Battle of the Java Sea
All of these to take part in my Java Sea NIMITZ campaign. |
Wackmole9 | 12 May 2024 6:45 a.m. PST |
and illeaguely salvaged in the modern era. |
Shagnasty | 12 May 2024 9:28 a.m. PST |
Very nice models of a valiant but doomed fleet. |
Grattan54 | 12 May 2024 10:17 a.m. PST |
A friend of mine wanted to do a "Ghost" fleet for WW2 in the Pacific. It would be made up of ships that had been sunk during the wear. |
ColCampbell | 12 May 2024 12:42 p.m. PST |
And also illegally salvaged was the USS Pope (DD-225) which was attempting, with the destroyer HMS Encounter to escort the damaged cruiser HMS Exeter (of Battle of the River Platte) fame out of the area. All three ships were sunk by Japanese naval surface and air action on sunk on 1 Mar 1942 between Borneo and Java . link The USS Pope supported the US Army Flying Service "Around the World" flight in 1924. link Jim |
colkitto | 12 May 2024 1:25 p.m. PST |
Very nice. I haven't got round to painting my Dutch force yet – haven't been sure how to paint them. Can I ask what sources you used for the camo patterns? |
Murvihill | 13 May 2024 3:31 a.m. PST |
There is also the Soerabaja, an old coastal defense ship. Poor thing never made it out of the harbor. |
dragon6 | 13 May 2024 10:37 a.m. PST |
I have Australian pictures of De Ruyter, Java, and Tromp, the only one of them that survived. The Australian's have photos of the cruisers showing the patterns and a couple of Dutch DDs and their patterns. Mostly the patterns only show one side and they are all black and white For some reason I've managed to lose the Australian naval record locations :-( |
troopwo | 13 May 2024 11:02 a.m. PST |
Nice work. The Dutch sub squadron in the Pacific and Indian Ocean is always overlooked despite some fairly decent tasks for the first year of the war. Too hard to model though.. |
hindsTMP | 13 May 2024 12:02 p.m. PST |
Colkitto, Internet has images of camouflaged Dutch ships, but you have to dig for it. For example:
. There is also a book "Dutch Warships of World War II" by Willigenburg, but I've seen some on-line disputes over his color interpretations. The Osprey book doesn't have much on camouflage (assume their plates are supposed to represent pre-war). From sources like the above, I've accumulated images on my PC, in case I ever decide to paint them. :-) |
colkitto | 14 May 2024 9:55 a.m. PST |
Thank you dragon6 and hindsTMP. Yes, I've also accumulated a bunch of pics from the Internet over the years, also for the day when I get round to it, but I don't think I had seen those. Now – the US destroyers … Can't determine whether they were overall grey or whether they'd adopted one of the distinctive USN schemes – any consensus on this? |
Captain Pete | 17 May 2024 3:07 p.m. PST |
Excellent work on all of those Dutch ships, Foxbat! There are some interesting scenarios to game here. |